Cat vs. Ball Python = Cat Won

Hey guys,
So my friend had his bp escape. Well, his cat found it. Its still alive, but its def. got some damage. I don't think that its going to survive because although there are no chunks or pieces missing from him, his bp has some areas were his skin is no long there, and few puncture wounds.
I know that my distributor told me a story about his bp that a rat got left in the cage and literally ate the back of the snake. Showing the snake's spine and the snake survived. I actually saw the snake when I visited his shop and its scarred all down its back and is pretty narley. I am sending him over there this morning to my distributor in regards to what to do.
However, I am just wondering if anyone knows any other stories or anything to be done here. I know that my experience with cats catching things, if the thing does survive that it adventually dies because the "venom" that the cat has in its mouth adventually kills the animal. I have seen this mostly with birds.
I do not know how the snake got out, so please do not start a big debate on it. I'm just asking for advice on how to treat and other similar stories. Thank you.

I would probably consult a herp vet before consulting a distributor. Antibiotics are definitely in order for a cat bite.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

I'm just asking for advice on how to treat and other similar stories. Thank you.[/B][/SIZE]

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So you're looking for more stories of incompetence? How about your friend take it to a vet and be more careful in the future??? Ball + incompetent owner = fail...

Didnt realise cats have "venom". Is that like cat scratch fever?

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Originally Posted by unspecified42

I would probably consult a herp vet before consulting a distributor. Antibiotics are definitely in order for a cat bite.

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Find a herp/exotics vet near your area. Cats have a whole spectrum of bacteria in their mouths/on their claws. Infection can start very quickly and should be one of the first things treated for the snake to have any chance of survival.

Also, if living in a house with a cat(s) and snake(s), there should be extra measures taken to keep snakes in their enclosures, or cats out of the enclosure. I haven't seen a cat yet that hasn't gone into "predator/defensive fear/aggressive curiosity mode" once a snake is spotted.

Cat's don't have venom they just have filthy bacteria ridden mouths, go to a vat and get antibiotics they snake will probrably be fine.

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Originally Posted by sho220

So you're looking for more stories of incompetence? How about your friend take it to a vet and be more careful in the future??? Ball + incompetent owner = fail...

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I'm looking for advice. And yes a vet is the obvious one; its called the meantime in waiting for an appointment. I'm coming up with the best solutions for him at the moment and this is suppose to be a good outlet for advise. I hate to tell you, but theres tons of stories of bps getting out. These are called ACCIDENTS for a reason.

I'm guessing you weren't competent to read what I put in bold and in bigger print. If I wanted sarcasim I would have left that bold and bigger print out. Maybe I should have put it in red for the challenged. I guess I expected people that had nothing compassionate and neutral to offer to just be kind enough to read and not post anything.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

These are called ACCIDENTS for a reason.

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Call it whatever you want...it was preventable. How about your friend take a little responsibility in his actions, or inactions??? If it was my snake I'd be headed to the vet right now...not making an appointment. This, I think, would qualify as an emergency?

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Didnt realise cats have "venom". Is that like cat scratch fever?

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Cat saliva hosts a lot of nasty bacteria. When a cat bites someone in the salon I work at, it's IMMEDIATE grounds to send that groomer to the ER, even if it's just a little nip. Big dog mauls me and I don't need a doctor but a cat's tooth breaks skin and off to the ER I'll go! :P It causes BAD infections...I've had two massive blood infections from cat bites, one of which nearly killed me.

My advice is to NOT put neosporin or anything like it on the wounds until the vet can see it. Puncture wounds hold bacteria in them, and if you put antibiotic cream on them like neosporin, it can heal the wound from the outside IN, causing abscesses and all sorts of much worse issues than the original wound. The wounds need to heal from the inside OUT, if you have it available I'd thoroughly rinse the wounds with sterile saline solution and then letting them drain until you can get this poor snake to a vet. If you don't have access to sterile saline or have no way to flush the wounds (just pouring it doesn't do anything) then just keep the snake quiet and still until you can get him or her to a vet.

I'd be insisting that the vet see the animal IMMEDIATELY, no waiting for an appointment, btw. I'd literally take the snake in and declare it an emergency...with cat bites, you can't wait.

BTW, why ask others to share stories of escape and harm? Why not simply ask what if anything might help? :P

Sorry to come off harsh about your friend, but a part of being big boys and girls is the ability to accept blame for when we screw up and learn from it. Putting on the blinders and calling this just an accident is wrong...and will just lead to more "accidents'...these animals rely on us, and us alone. It wasn't the cats fault and it wasn't the snakes fault...who is left?

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If it was my snake I'd be headed to the vet right now...not making an appointment. This, I think, would qualify as an emergency?

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...beat me to it. ;) But yes, this is my thinking.

Imagine if it was a mammal. When my puppy broke her left front leg, I didn't CARE that it was a holiday weekend and it'd be three days until my vet could see her. I insisted he see her immediately, she was in pain and needed treatment...and when he refused (the advice he gave was to shut her in her dog carrier for three days until he could see her, wtf!!!) I drove to the next city over to take her to a 24/7 emergency veterinary clinic. Paid through the nose but you can't put a price on having a sick or injured animal treated post haste!

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Originally Posted by sho220

Call it whatever you want...it was preventable. How about your friend take a little responsibility in his actions, or inactions??? If it was my snake I'd be headed to the vet right now...not making an appointment. This, I think, would qualify as an emergency?

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Wow, I guess I didn't make it clear enough for someone that needs straight words.

YOUR ADVICE. SCRATCH THAT....NON ADVICE IS NOT NEEDED. GO HARRASS SOMEONE THAT NEEDS USELESS BABBLE. BUT I DONT.

Maybe that was clear enough. If not that someone needs to help you get the point that I have relayed.

Its not my snake and nor would I treat my friend with such insensitivity and saracasim. I am thankful for the people that provided some sensitivity on the subject, since I did not intend to post something for me (not even the owner) to be barked at with bs.

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Originally Posted by Kyle@theHeathertoft

BTW, why ask others to share stories of escape and harm? Why not simply ask what if anything might help? :P

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Stories and outcomes. Its easier to gauge. I gave him the number to my herp vet. Its the best I can do because its not my snake. I gave him the number to my distributor that had something similar happen but not with a cat. I'm simply just gathering more information than what I found on the internet.

Advise is the obvious one I'm looking for beyond the obvious. "vet" "hes neglectful" "he needs to assume responsibility."

These are obviously things and hes already upset and flipping out. No need to kick a man when hes already down.

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Originally Posted by sho220

Call it whatever you want...it was preventable. How about your friend take a little responsibility in his actions, or inactions??? If it was my snake I'd be headed to the vet right now...not making an appointment. This, I think, would qualify as an emergency?

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Gimme a break. Things happen, and you have no idea if it was an honest mistake. Maybe you should take a chill pill and stop being so negative. I love how this site RIGHT ONE THE VERY TOP says "the friendliest online community for all your herping needs!" But is pretty far from it I say....Keep comments like this to yourself. When I read these it makes me really wonder about this site and how "friendly" it really is. He was asking for advice, not for your lame opinion on how his friend is incompetent. Sounds like you are being that you can't read HUGE font in posts.

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Originally Posted by Animals As Leaders

Gimme a break. Things happen, and you have no idea if it was an honest mistake. Maybe you should take a chill pill and stop being so negative. I love how this site RIGHT ONE THE VERY TOP says "the friendliest online community for all your herping needs!" But is pretty far from it I say....Keep comments like this to yourself. When I read these it makes me really wonder about this site and how "friendly" it really is. He was asking for advice, not for your lame opinion on how his friend is incompetent. Sounds like you are being that you can't read HUGE font in posts.

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Breath of fresh air. Finally someone that gets what I was looking for. :-) BTW I'm a girl ;)

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Originally Posted by Animals As Leaders

Gimme a break. Things happen, and you have no idea if it was an honest mistake. Maybe you should take a chill pill and stop being so negative. I love how this site RIGHT ONE THE VERY TOP says "the friendliest online community for all your herping needs!" But is pretty far from it I say....Keep comments like this to yourself. When I read these it makes me really wonder about this site and how "friendly" it really is. He was asking for advice, not for your lame opinion on how his friend is incompetent. Sounds like you are being that you can't read HUGE font in posts.

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Just asking for someone to take responsibility...didn't realize I was asking too much...:confused:

I'm out...:)

Wow. This site is wonderful, and extremely friendly. They have helped a lot of people with a lot of problems. Some are herp related, and others aren't. But yes, they will tell you when you did something stupid. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with it. Yes, we all make mistakes, but it's the good friends who tell us when we are wrong.

And, it's really hard to offer advise on a bp who has been hurt. If you do a search, almost every single post with a hurt bp advises a vet visit. And, I really wouldn't trust anyone who offered a quick fix on something they haven't even seen.

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Originally Posted by sho220

Just asking for someone to take responsibility...didn't realize I was asking too much...:confused:

I'm out...:)

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Responsibility is not on me. Unless that you want me to accept responsibility of posting the story in hopes of getting some advice and knowing if this has happened to anyone else. But interesting enough you can't provide what decent and above the norm. advice you provided. Its asking too much for someone to accept responsibility when its not their snake and their mistake.

I like how you expect me to assume responsiblity here; since I clearly stated it wasn't my snake.

Responsibility seems more important to you than advise what to do. You should think about that, snake or responsibility and weigh that morally. I'm doing what I can as friend. I was hoping to give my already scared and upset friend some useful advise than: Take it to the vet and bash him for his mistake.

This response is to all three individuals quoted here, as well as to everyone reading.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

I do not know how the snake got out, so please do not start a big debate on it. I'm just asking for advice on how to treat and other similar stories. Thank you.

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Evilme -- While I completely understand your sentiment, unfortunately, when you come onto a public site like this and ask questions, people are going to comment as they wish. You can't control the responses you will get...the best you can do is sort through them and pick out the nuggets of gold that you need and ignore the rest.

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Originally Posted by sho220

Sorry to come off harsh about your friend, but a part of being big boys and girls is the ability to accept blame for when we screw up and learn from it. Putting on the blinders and calling this just an accident is wrong...and will just lead to more "accidents'...these animals rely on us, and us alone. It wasn't the cats fault and it wasn't the snakes fault...who is left?

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Sho -- your responses have been completely unreasonable. I know you have the right to express your opinion in a thread like this...but this is me expressing my opinion as well. How do you KNOW her friend hasn't accepted responsibility for her actions? How do you know the person doesn't feel horrible and has already taken steps to make sure this doesn't happen again in the future? There's simply no point and no positive benefit to being so critical and nasty this way.

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Originally Posted by Animals As Leaders

When I read these it makes me really wonder about this site and how "friendly" it really is.

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Animals -- With so many thousands of members participating, we're bound to get personalities that clash and that are abrasive. We can't control people and we can't force everyone to "be nice"....but we DO enforce our rules as consistently and fairly as possible and work our butts off doing so. And if you take the site as a whole, given its size and how much information and help everyone is willing to share with anyone who needs it and how much compassion MOST people have for those in need.....I believe we live up to our reputation pretty darned well.

Everyone -- I don't believe Evilme was asking for stories of incompetence. I believe she was asking for stories of folks who had had an injured snake that survived. She's looking for encouragement in a difficult situation. Why not offer some?

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

But yes, they will tell you when you did something stupid. I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with it. Yes, we all make mistakes, but it's the good friends who tell us when we are wrong.

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It is wrong when I'm not the owner.

It is wrong when I'm searching for advise for him. Not the obvious that what happened could have been preventable or that it shouldn't happen. I have plenty of bps myself, I got tons of experience and know what happened was wrong. I do not know about what happens when a snake is bitten by a cat.

Should I start beating in his head its his fault at this particular moment? HELL NO! Should I be a friend and start researching information? YES.

Did I expect people to be insensitive? Yes, hence why I put it part of the post. Did I expect some insensitive person to offer useless advise? Theres a chance theres someone out there with nothing else better to do.

I have been apart of this site for quite some time too. I noticed that this site is more critisim at times than advise. I know one post in particular that I came across with in regards to breeding. PPL on there were mad harsh to a girl and it wasn't her fault that the snake got gravid; since she rescued the animals and did not know the prior arrangements of how they were kept. The the snake was gravid when it was given to her.

People on here need to understand that advise before bashing is always the best policy. Half the time the person is probably already kicking themselves for whatever happened.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Everyone -- I don't believe Evilme was asking for stories of incompetence. I believe she was asking for stories of folks who had had an injured snake that survived. She's looking for encouragement in a difficult situation. Why not offer some?

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I couldn't have put it better myself. Thank you. :D

" tiptoes in "....

I agree that berating the owner/original poster is moot. And he without fault cast the first stone...

I would say that I'm one of the most careful persons out there when it comes to husbandry and keeping of reptiles or really any pet/animal. I do my research, I'm open minded, I put a lot of thought and care into it.

Yet...even I had a BP get out once. It was a rescue and to this day I'm not sure how he managed to get out of his tub. He was a determined thing.
It didn't help that I had my mom and grandma visiting me from Germany and they were waiting on me to go to church while I was frantically searching for the escapee, trying not to let on there was a snake loose in the house, LOL.

Yes, I had a cat at this time, and 2 big dogs...

Thankfully I found the bugger under my bed, unharmed, shortly after. But it could have also went very wrong instead...

That said, I can only say what others have said. This is an emergency. It doesn't even matter how "bad" the snake looks on the outside. If it has any cat bites, time is of essence. Cat teeth are long and narrow and they basically "inject" their bacteria ridden saliva deep into a wound, where the bacteria goes straight to work...

This is calling for antibiotics. Strong ones, too, and a long series of it. The sooner the better, but this definitely cannot wait "days". Infection WILL set in.

This is one of those times where nothing else will do, sorry to say. A trip to the Vet is in dire order.

Good luck to the friend and her snake and kudos to the original poster for doing SOMETHING in the right direction.

You keep sayng people are giving "useless" advice. It's just that you don't want to listen to the advice.

The snake needs to see a vet. It needs antibiotics or the cat bites will fester VERY quickly and the snake will end up with rotten wounds that kill it, if it's lucky. With antibiotics, it has a good chance of recovering.

There's no advice of "oh yeah, just pour some goop on it and it'll be fine" so what advice are you looking for that you HAVEN'T already read? It's a pity that the snake got out, and I hope your friend fixes however it managed to get out. It happens. But since the snake is injured, several people have already advised you what the animal needs.

We're not being harsh to suggest exactly what your friend needs to do.

#1 Find a vet and get the pet to the vet immediately. It should be within a day, before the bacteria(not venom) really sets in.

#2 Make sure the enclosure is secured so there won't be any repeats. Now that kitty knows the snake is a fun toy, it might try to get INTO the cage, so making certain the cage is secured both from snake escaping AND kitty breaking in is an important step. It's not bashing your friend to make certain that little bit of information gets to them. We are assuming whatever situation would be most dangerous for the pet, i.e. that your friend has not fixed the problem, and advising you in a way that will ensure the pet's safety.

It's very sad that you see people trying to show concern for the PET as bashing you. Yes a few people go over the top and type up harsh words, but it's because they are concerned for the snake. I'm not all that concerned for your friend's feelings, honestly. Your friend wasn't bitten up by a cat, and doesn't need immediate care. You can transmit the advice and information in a kind and concerned manner if you want. The important thing(at least to me) is that the animal is going to get proper treatment.

By your own postings, it's not. You mention something about making an appointment, but you don't say that the snake is going to the vet for immediate care. You continue to say that no one has given any useful advice, which tells me you don't see the "Take the snake to the vet immediately" as valid advice.

If you didn't want help, don't bother posting that you want the advice. Yes the snake can survive cat bites IF it gets treated properly by a vet with antibiotics. You cannot compare rat bites to cat bites, because rat bites are surface bites, even when they make deep wounds, they are wide and deep. Cat bites are deep an narrow and tend to close up immediately, then fester and cause abcesses.

If you'd like I'm sure we could put the advice in ten point font. It still won't make the owner of the snake do what he/she needs to do if they are just set on sitting and waiting for the snake to live or die, instead of taking it to a vet(not a breeder, not a store, not a importer).

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

By your own postings, it's not. You mention something about making an appointment, but you don't say that the snake is going to the vet for immediate care. You continue to say that no one has given any useful advice, which tells me you don't see the "Take the snake to the vet immediately" as valid advice.

If you didn't want help, don't bother posting that you want the advice. Yes the snake can survive cat bites IF it gets treated properly by a vet with antibiotics. You cannot compare rat bites to cat bites, because rat bites are surface bites, even when they make deep wounds, they are wide and deep. Cat bites are deep an narrow and tend to close up immediately, then fester and cause abcesses.

If you'd like I'm sure we could put the advice in ten point font. It still won't make the owner of the snake do what he/she needs to do if they are just set on sitting and waiting for the snake to live or die, instead of taking it to a vet(not a breeder, not a store, not a importer).

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First off, vet is the obvious one. And he is taking it to the vet. I'm well experienced enough to know thats the #1 thing that needs to happen. Thats not advice by the way, its common sense.

2nd off, I have had cats and I know the damage they can do. I know all about the bacteria in their mouth and the time period it usually takes to set in. When I was a child my cats would catch birds and one min. they were fine, watched over them for the day, next morning dead. I know all about it.

He was waiting for my herp vet to contact him back. Which he did and dropped the snake off. Hes getting proper care.

I am well aware of having to look at his enclosure techniques. I after all was the one that saw the poor snake; not you guys. 5 people stating the obvious doesn't change the fact that I already know however it happened was wrong and shouldn't happen. However, I'm not the owner and the point of me advising him that I should help him in husbandry was apparent way before I typed a word on here.

Guess your one of the ppl that got offended in my nice bold and big lettering. lol. But your thrown in the same category as the rest of them in the obvious, insensitive, and not helpful advise.

If the vet has it and I'm going to investigate what happened, what more can you ask out of the non owner? hmmm...I'm sure you guys will find something outrageous to add.

Getting help for the animal and optomistic perspectives are always better than, degrading and bashing the one friend that is trying to find help and useful information for the offender. Guess you guys don't share the same views. Pitty.....glad I'm not your friend. Let send you back to friend 101. And although part of being a friend is being honest to your friend, the manner on how you conduct your deminor is a different story.

You don't go up to your friend that lost a family member and say,"well, its your fault you didn't keep in touch with them." or "They didn't treat you good anyway." Thats the similar principles you guys are going on. On a time of distress, beat a person down further than they already feel. Shows the quality of ppl you guys are.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

Shows the quality of ppl you guys are.

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You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

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Originally Posted by JLC

You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

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I was talking about the ppl saying the SAME POINTS. I'm not lookin for some magic bullet, nor am I'm looking for the same points. I'm offended when the same thing gets said over and over again; when more and more ppl on here don't grasp I get the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, point about how Dr. is need and he should have took better concern.

I actually thanked you for your support, so where would you feel you needed to get offend? I quoted the things I found repeative and if ppl actually read what was going on they would have some common sense on how I have been responding to repeative banter.

I'm not asking alot when I hope for some positivity.

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Originally Posted by JLC

You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

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I honestly couldn't have said it better. I was scrolling down and looking through some of the advice that people were giving the OP and it seemed pretty accurate.

The fact is the animal needs to be taken to the vet, now. Actually, it needed to be taken to the vet when it happened. Emergency Vet Clinics are there for a reason. A friend of mine just spent $400 that she did not have on a Reptile that she didn't pay a quarter that much when she bought it. And you know what? With as busy as her vet was, because it was an EMERGENCY, he got the animal in the clinic and treated it. Might I add, most vets will do Payment Plans.

So, with how OBVIOUS the advice is, it has been failed to be followed.

While "your friend" is waiting, rinse the wounds with a iodine solution and place it in a warm, sterile shoe box. Use paper towels as substrate.

Seriously....wow.


No wonder the OP is pissed. Ten people telling him the SAME exact thing...that he already knows.....LOL


I see everyone jumping down someones throat for NOTHING.

"Friendliest place on earth"

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

While "your friend" is waiting, rinse the wounds with a iodine solution and place it in a warm, sterile shoe box. Use paper towels as substrate.

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Honestly, how hard was it to just say that?

And NOT spew all that other BS you spewed?

Take the BP to the vet ASAP. For a cat bite, the snake is going to need antibiotics.

Good luck. Hope she/he turns out ok.

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

The fact is the animal needs to be taken to the vet, now. Actually, it needed to be taken to the vet when it happened. Emergency Vet Clinics are there for a reason. A friend of mine just spent $400 that she did not have on a Reptile that she didn't pay a quarter that much when she bought it. And you know what? With as busy as her vet was, because it was an EMERGENCY, he got the animal in the clinic and treated it. Might I add, most vets will do Payment Plans..

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You can't just take a snake to an Emergency Vet. Not all places take Reptiles. Guess you never had to have a herp vet!

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Seriously....wow.


No wonder the OP is pissed. Ten people telling him the SAME exact thing...that he already knows.....LOL


I see everyone jumping down someones throat for NOTHING.

"Friendliest place on earth"

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I don't know how hard it was for them to see thats why I was getting mad. ::shrugs::

Just so everyone knows. Snake has antibotics and stitches. Outlook is decent as of right now.

Amazing how much bs I had to go through to not get anything opptomistic out of you ppl. A few ppl actually saw supported my feelings on the matter, whereas some of you need some help on being sensitive and realize when your submitting repeative useless information about something that is being already done.

Guess its too hard to seek some sensitivity. Guess its too hard to not get ridiculed for something thats not even mine.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

You can't just take a snake to an Emergency Vet. Not all places take Reptiles. Guess you never had to have a herp vet!

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I actually got a laugh out of this. What are herp vets special in that they don't allow their regular clients to bring in animals during an emergency? Most will even take non-regular clients during an emergency.

And as a matter of fact, while I do not share the same Herp Vet as my friend, my vet specializes in exotics but also cares for my domestic animals and he is on call at any time for an emergency (as are most vets). Emergencies take priority.

Someone should have probably let you know (and "your friend), there's not just one herp vet in the entire US.

http://www.herpvetconnection.com/ - Go there, since you obviously think they are rare, you might even find one near you.

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Originally Posted by Evilme5229

You can't just take a snake to an Emergency Vet. Not all places take Reptiles. Guess you never had to have a herp vet!

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There is no use trying to explain that to them.

Everyone else but you is just lucky enough to have a 24/7 emergency reptile vet down the street. LOL

Yes you can "just take the snake to a vet" when you've got a vet to take the animal to! Part of owning a pet(especially an exotic) is to have a vet to call when there is an emergency.

As far as it being so "obvious" that you know all about what to do, you never stated the pet was going to vet right away, you never stated you knew all about cat bites, you in fact posted ASKING for advice.

I couldn't care less about your freind status, or what your opinion is on the price of tea in china. The FACT is that you posted a scenario, asked for opinions and were given advice, which you then decide that is "bashing" because several people posted the same answer.

Since you're going to be offended anyway, next time maybe only ONE person will post an answer for you so there won't be any repeats. Then you can be all offended that "only one response" was posted for you.

Jeez, I'm so very sorry that my detailed advice explaining the why and how was SOOO offensive. I should have put on my psychic hat and just known that you are so very knowledgable that you were posting just for the sheer fun of it.

Now see? That's how you be offensive and sarcastic. Compare that to my post that detailed why you needed xxx, and what was important in the next step. Get the chip off your shoulder. People wanted to help the wounded snake. If you wanted "Oh the POOR owner must be DEVESTATED!!! We'll all think really happy fluffy thoughts that she/he won't feel bad this happened!" then I'm certain there's some forum somewhere that will give you that. This particular forum was more concerned about making sure you knew what was best for the WOUNDED ANIMAL.

Yay the snake is finally at the vet. Booo for you spitting in everyone's face when they tried to help.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

As far as it being so "obvious" that you know all about what to do, you never stated the pet was going to vet right away, you never stated you knew all about cat bites, you in fact posted ASKING for advice.

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So that automatically means that it wasnt gonna happen?


Come on Theresa that same argument can be used against YOU!

You assumed he wasnt taking it.......


You know I got nothing against you, but you are reading into this a little more than need be....

Take a moment...breathe....then come back to us.




I dont know the OP....hell, never even SEEN his name before....

But I do know that all of you are going a wee bit overboard with this.

Simple. I ASSUMED that he/she wasn't going to, because that is worst case scenario when it comes to the snakes well being.

I hoped that the owner would already be contacting a vet, but to ASSUME that the OP was accepting the proper advice, and then hearing later the "Oh I didn't think it was important to do right away, the snake died" would somehow be preferable to ASSUMING that it wasn't getting done?

When someone calls the shop and asks me about their dog having an issue, I tell them even the stupid simple advice that ANY owner should know, becuase in some cases they DON'T know.

I'd rather say it and it not be needed than assume the person knows and find out later that they didn't and it negatively impacted the snake surviving or not.

Glad the snake got the care that it needed, sorry I didn't get a chance to throw in my 2 cents, it seemed like it was a lot of fun. I actually called my friends over so we could all gather around and bash the OP about cage security and getting the thing to the vet.

I think this has gone quite far enough. The snake has been cared for, and I assume will have ongoing follow-ups with the vet. Nothing else need be added from that angle.

To the OP, I'm sorry if the flavor of advice given didn't suit your palate. This is definitely a case of not being able to please everyone all the time. I am GLAD that your friend has YOU as a friend to support them and help them when they needed it, and I sincerely hope the snake makes a quick and full recovery.

Take care.