Cat vs. Ball Python = Cat Won

[Evilme5229]

Everyone -- I don't believe Evilme was asking for stories of incompetence. I believe she was asking for stories of folks who had had an injured snake that survived. She's looking for encouragement in a difficult situation. Why not offer some?

I couldn't have put it better myself. Thank you.

[zina10]

" tiptoes in "....

I agree that berating the owner/original poster is moot. And he without fault cast the first stone...

I would say that I'm one of the most careful persons out there when it comes to husbandry and keeping of reptiles or really any pet/animal. I do my research, I'm open minded, I put a lot of thought and care into it.

Yet...even I had a BP get out once. It was a rescue and to this day I'm not sure how he managed to get out of his tub. He was a determined thing.
It didn't help that I had my mom and grandma visiting me from Germany and they were waiting on me to go to church while I was frantically searching for the escapee, trying not to let on there was a snake loose in the house, LOL.

Yes, I had a cat at this time, and 2 big dogs...

Thankfully I found the bugger under my bed, unharmed, shortly after. But it could have also went very wrong instead...

That said, I can only say what others have said. This is an emergency. It doesn't even matter how "bad" the snake looks on the outside. If it has any cat bites, time is of essence. Cat teeth are long and narrow and they basically "inject" their bacteria ridden saliva deep into a wound, where the bacteria goes straight to work...

This is calling for antibiotics. Strong ones, too, and a long series of it. The sooner the better, but this definitely cannot wait "days". Infection WILL set in.

This is one of those times where nothing else will do, sorry to say. A trip to the Vet is in dire order.

Good luck to the friend and her snake and kudos to the original poster for doing SOMETHING in the right direction.

[wolfy-hound]

You keep sayng people are giving "useless" advice. It's just that you don't want to listen to the advice.

The snake needs to see a vet. It needs antibiotics or the cat bites will fester VERY quickly and the snake will end up with rotten wounds that kill it, if it's lucky. With antibiotics, it has a good chance of recovering.

There's no advice of "oh yeah, just pour some goop on it and it'll be fine" so what advice are you looking for that you HAVEN'T already read? It's a pity that the snake got out, and I hope your friend fixes however it managed to get out. It happens. But since the snake is injured, several people have already advised you what the animal needs.

We're not being harsh to suggest exactly what your friend needs to do.

#1 Find a vet and get the pet to the vet immediately. It should be within a day, before the bacteria(not venom) really sets in.

#2 Make sure the enclosure is secured so there won't be any repeats. Now that kitty knows the snake is a fun toy, it might try to get INTO the cage, so making certain the cage is secured both from snake escaping AND kitty breaking in is an important step. It's not bashing your friend to make certain that little bit of information gets to them. We are assuming whatever situation would be most dangerous for the pet, i.e. that your friend has not fixed the problem, and advising you in a way that will ensure the pet's safety.

It's very sad that you see people trying to show concern for the PET as bashing you. Yes a few people go over the top and type up harsh words, but it's because they are concerned for the snake. I'm not all that concerned for your friend's feelings, honestly. Your friend wasn't bitten up by a cat, and doesn't need immediate care. You can transmit the advice and information in a kind and concerned manner if you want. The important thing(at least to me) is that the animal is going to get proper treatment.

By your own postings, it's not. You mention something about making an appointment, but you don't say that the snake is going to the vet for immediate care. You continue to say that no one has given any useful advice, which tells me you don't see the "Take the snake to the vet immediately" as valid advice.

If you didn't want help, don't bother posting that you want the advice. Yes the snake can survive cat bites IF it gets treated properly by a vet with antibiotics. You cannot compare rat bites to cat bites, because rat bites are surface bites, even when they make deep wounds, they are wide and deep. Cat bites are deep an narrow and tend to close up immediately, then fester and cause abcesses.

If you'd like I'm sure we could put the advice in ten point font. It still won't make the owner of the snake do what he/she needs to do if they are just set on sitting and waiting for the snake to live or die, instead of taking it to a vet(not a breeder, not a store, not a importer).

[Evilme5229]

By your own postings, it's not. You mention something about making an appointment, but you don't say that the snake is going to the vet for immediate care. You continue to say that no one has given any useful advice, which tells me you don't see the "Take the snake to the vet immediately" as valid advice.

If you didn't want help, don't bother posting that you want the advice. Yes the snake can survive cat bites IF it gets treated properly by a vet with antibiotics. You cannot compare rat bites to cat bites, because rat bites are surface bites, even when they make deep wounds, they are wide and deep. Cat bites are deep an narrow and tend to close up immediately, then fester and cause abcesses.

If you'd like I'm sure we could put the advice in ten point font. It still won't make the owner of the snake do what he/she needs to do if they are just set on sitting and waiting for the snake to live or die, instead of taking it to a vet(not a breeder, not a store, not a importer).

First off, vet is the obvious one. And he is taking it to the vet. I'm well experienced enough to know thats the #1 thing that needs to happen. Thats not advice by the way, its common sense.

2nd off, I have had cats and I know the damage they can do. I know all about the bacteria in their mouth and the time period it usually takes to set in. When I was a child my cats would catch birds and one min. they were fine, watched over them for the day, next morning dead. I know all about it.

He was waiting for my herp vet to contact him back. Which he did and dropped the snake off. Hes getting proper care.

I am well aware of having to look at his enclosure techniques. I after all was the one that saw the poor snake; not you guys. 5 people stating the obvious doesn't change the fact that I already know however it happened was wrong and shouldn't happen. However, I'm not the owner and the point of me advising him that I should help him in husbandry was apparent way before I typed a word on here.

Guess your one of the ppl that got offended in my nice bold and big lettering. lol. But your thrown in the same category as the rest of them in the obvious, insensitive, and not helpful advise.

If the vet has it and I'm going to investigate what happened, what more can you ask out of the non owner? hmmm...I'm sure you guys will find something outrageous to add.

Getting help for the animal and optomistic perspectives are always better than, degrading and bashing the one friend that is trying to find help and useful information for the offender. Guess you guys don't share the same views. Pitty.....glad I'm not your friend. Let send you back to friend 101. And although part of being a friend is being honest to your friend, the manner on how you conduct your deminor is a different story.

You don't go up to your friend that lost a family member and say,"well, its your fault you didn't keep in touch with them." or "They didn't treat you good anyway." Thats the similar principles you guys are going on. On a time of distress, beat a person down further than they already feel. Shows the quality of ppl you guys are.

[JLC]

Shows the quality of ppl you guys are.

You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

[Evilme5229]

You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

I was talking about the ppl saying the SAME POINTS. I'm not lookin for some magic bullet, nor am I'm looking for the same points. I'm offended when the same thing gets said over and over again; when more and more ppl on here don't grasp I get the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, point about how Dr. is need and he should have took better concern.

I actually thanked you for your support, so where would you feel you needed to get offend? I quoted the things I found repeative and if ppl actually read what was going on they would have some common sense on how I have been responding to repeative banter.

I'm not asking alot when I hope for some positivity.

[Michelle.C]

You know...I really tried to help, but you are making it harder and harder for ANYone to try and help you. Theresa (wolfy-hound) made some very important points. But it seems that you don't want to see her points. It SEEMS like all you want to do is be offended. If you WANT to be offended, I'm sure you'll find something in EVERY post to get upset about and argue about. But doing so won't help your friend or your friend's snake.

I don't know what kind of magic bullet you're looking for here. As Theresa pointed out, there isn't one. Sorry if everything everyone has said is so OBVIOUS to you. Not sure why you felt the need to ask for any advice since you (and your friend) so obviously have everything under control.

Good luck with it.

I honestly couldn't have said it better. I was scrolling down and looking through some of the advice that people were giving the OP and it seemed pretty accurate.

The fact is the animal needs to be taken to the vet, now. Actually, it needed to be taken to the vet when it happened. Emergency Vet Clinics are there for a reason. A friend of mine just spent $400 that she did not have on a Reptile that she didn't pay a quarter that much when she bought it. And you know what? With as busy as her vet was, because it was an EMERGENCY, he got the animal in the clinic and treated it. Might I add, most vets will do Payment Plans.

So, with how OBVIOUS the advice is, it has been failed to be followed.

While "your friend" is waiting, rinse the wounds with a iodine solution and place it in a warm, sterile shoe box. Use paper towels as substrate.

[Patrick Long]

Seriously....wow.


No wonder the OP is pissed. Ten people telling him the SAME exact thing...that he already knows.....LOL


I see everyone jumping down someones throat for NOTHING.

"Friendliest place on earth"

[Patrick Long]

While "your friend" is waiting, rinse the wounds with a iodine solution and place it in a warm, sterile shoe box. Use paper towels as substrate.

Honestly, how hard was it to just say that?

And NOT spew all that other BS you spewed?

[Bellabob]

Take the BP to the vet ASAP. For a cat bite, the snake is going to need antibiotics.

Good luck. Hope she/he turns out ok.