just curious for now but.....

what do you house your RTB in? i've seen some pics with tubs,is that for subadults only? i now the temps are very similar to bp's but how about humidity? for those of you who keep bp's, do you keep your RTB in the same room? or as a display in the livingroom? which i think would look very nice. any other advice or tips are appreciated. thank you

I have my BCI and BCO in tubs right now. They're only in the 150-200 gram range though so they are small now, but i will be putting them in 4x2's soon. I keep all my herps in the same room. My ball python, my jcp, and the boas. Humidity is about the same range as bp's, just a little higher. My other advice would be, get a RTB. They are awsome. Dont get too large and have great temperments. And they are beautiful.

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I have my BCI and BCO in tubs right now. They're only in the 150-200 gram range though so they are small now, but i will be putting them in 4x2's soon. I keep all my herps in the same room. My ball python, my jcp, and the boas. Humidity is about the same range as bp's, just a little higher. My other advice would be, get a RTB. They are awsome. Dont get too large and have great temperments. And they are beautiful.

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hey thanks. i'm sorry i know you said 4x2 but what kind of enclosure, DIY or pre-made? how about IBD, are you worried? i hope to really follow your advice and get one, fathers day is not too far...LOL

I keep my boas the same as the bps.

78=80 cool side
88-92 warm side
55-65% humidity.

Mine are currently in 41 qts at 1000grams and some males never out grown 41qt tubs and some do.

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lol we just got a baby rtb and he does not like people yet :P Went to change water soon as i stuck hand in he tried to tag me :rolleyes:

Im sure he will get used to it after all he's only like 3 weeks old lol and iv had him around 1 week tomorrow

the 2 times i've been tagged were by a BCI that i had about 15 years ago. i used to keep her in a 55 gallon tank with heat lamp and UTH but no t-stat. how much things change and we learn every day. so a male should be fine in a 41qt. how big do males get in grams? thank you all

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the 2 times i've been tagged were by a BCI that i had about 15 years ago. i used to keep her in a 55 gallon tank with heat lamp and UTH but no t-stat. how much things change and we learn every day. so a male should be fine in a 41qt. how big do males get in grams? thank you all

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my biggest male i had was 5.5 ft and 12 lbs. Some can get as big as females some smaller. 41qt will house a 6ft snake no problems, just the weight sometimes cause problems in racks.

When you say BCI, are you talking about any in particular? Total boa newb...

it was a colombian RTB, Boa Constrictor Imperator

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When you say BCI, are you talking about any in particular? Total boa newb...

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Boa's are divided into 2 sub species:

BCC = Boa Constrictor Constrictor (Also known as true red tails). This is the bigger species. Surinames, Iquitos, North Brazilian to name a few.

BCI = Boa Constrictor Imperator. These are the smaller species. Also most Boa morphs fall into this category. I think most Colombian and Central American Boas are BCI.

Wow I didn't realized how much I've learned about Boa's!

you definitely explained it alot better than me, thanks.

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you definitely explained it alot better than me, thanks.

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Lol np :banana:

My favorite snakes, but still don't own one! :taz:

So technically, I could house a male BCI in my 41 qt rack with my ball python? I've got room, and every time I go to a show these guys are so friendly but I haven't taken the time to research because I didn't think a tub would be sufficient...Would the 41 qt. work for the males entire life or would I be forced to move to a larger setup?

Im not sure about the size and tubs since I never owned one. But you have to be concerned about IBD. Try to get a Boa from a keeper that also keeps pythons to be sure. Although I would guess any reputable Boa breeder is IBD free :)

Idiot check...IBD?

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Idiot check...IBD?

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Inclusion Body Disease, Though rare is very fatal when expressed in boas or pythons.

It's a terminal disease for some snake species. It will kill most pythons in just a few months and Boas in the long run. Boa also seem to be carriers of IBD.

Argh! :taz:

Just read this http://www.anapsid.org/ibd.html. I'm not good at explaining some things...

So...does that mean don't house boas and balls together, or just be careful who I buy from? I would likely get one at the next major show, most likely the June Tampa Repticon...

Again, only if you all think a 41 qt tub would suffice as a long term home...

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So...does that mean don't house boas and balls together, or just be careful who I buy from? I would likely get one at the next major show, most likely the June Tampa Repticon...

Again, only if you all think a 41 qt tub would suffice as a long term home...

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NEVER house snakes together period. Even if its the same species, problems arise eventually and not worth it.


When ever getting a new snake whether its a boa or a ball, always qt them apart to be sure they are healthy enough to co-inhabit in the same room

Just becareful who you buy from.

A 41qt tub should last a male BCI a long while. I guess it all deppends on how big he grows. You never really know.

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NEVER house snakes together period. Even if its the same species, problems arise eventually and not worth it.


When ever getting a new snake whether its a boa or a ball, always qt them apart to be sure they are healthy enough to co-inhabit in the same room

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I think he meant together as in the same rack, but not the same tub :P

I forgot to mention QT :gj:

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Correct, I should have specified

Is a show a bad place to get a snake?

As stated, it's always good to be safe. Quarantine ANY new snake for at least 30-60 days and know your breeder. Do your research. As far as housing them in the same rack/room, some will say it's ok...some won't. If you get a snake from a show (which is a great place to "shop around" and buy at), just make sure you treat the enclosure for mites. Just because the person you buy off doesn't have mites, doesn't mean you won't bring a few home from someone else's table. It ALWAYS pays to be safe. I keep most of my male boas in a cb-70 rack, which is only a 30qt I believe. They are more perfectly fine in there too. I have a couple that are in 321D's too.

I house my adult common BCI males and females in 4x2x1 cages. My sub-adults are in 32 quart tubs.

Just don't know as much about boas as i'd like, but the one show I went to this year, the sweetest, friendliest snake was a RTB...

They do make adult boa rack systems and there are also tubs big enough to house some pretty large animals... VE-175

Oh yea, I definitely know there are monster setups, but I've got one occupant in my three tub hotel... so want to stick with the 41 qt sterilite 1960's, hoping to have options other than BPs

Im sure by the time a male boa starts to outgrow a 41qt tub, it at all. You will have many more snakes and racks/enclosures. :P

Reading through the thread, I can see you already got the information you need but I'll chime in with my setup too....

I do house my RTB and ball in the same room. The RTB is in a 55 gallon tank currently until it out grows it and then I will build an enclosure for it. Though I may get lazy and just buy a boaphile.

It's hard to get everything right for a RTB in a glass tank. I am using a UTH for the hotspot and heat cable for a warmer area below the water dish and in some other areas to help with the ambient temp. I also put foil and foil tape around the sliding lid to keep some of the humidity in and help with the ambient temp.

So far so good. Generally it's 92 on the hotspot, 78-80 ambient and 60% humidity.

Good luck, mine has been a great snake. They grow fast and she's a cuddler.

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Correct, I should have specified

Is a show a bad place to get a snake?

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No, it is not. Though you just have to be careful and use hand sanitizer while handling different animals while you are there. Some vendors are not always that great, aka dirt merchants and they sell sick animals so you don't want to get anything on you and transfer it to your animals when you get home.

I think it's a great place to get a snake, I like seeing what I am purchasing in person rather then getting something online personally.

Also, I kept my 7ft peruvian in a 4x2 boaphile. The others are all in my 41qt snake rack.

I currently keep my 2 yearling BCC's in a boaphile stack. I have the cage dividers in so that they are in a 2x2 cage. When they outgrow that they will each get their own 4x2 cage. They like it a little cooler than the balls but my boaphiles house many different types of snakes so I keep the ranco set a couple degrees lower so everyone is happy. I just use bigger water bowls for the ones that want it a little more humid. They really hold the heat and humidity better than even my racks do. Im incredibly happy with them.

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No, it is not. Though you just have to be careful and use hand sanitizer while handling different animals while you are there. Some vendors are not always that great, aka dirt merchants and they sell sick animals so you don't want to get anything on you and transfer it to your animals when you get home.

I think it's a great place to get a snake, I like seeing what I am purchasing in person rather then getting something online personally.

Also, I kept my 7ft peruvian in a 4x2 boaphile. The others are all in my 41qt snake rack.

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