New/Rescued/Kinda Pin

Okay, the story goes like this. A Pinstripe was advertised on Craigslist. I bought it. So shoot me.:colbert:

He's a little small, but I'll get him up to size.

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nice pick up!!! I need a pin BAD!!!

Great looking animal!



...and from CL...go figure!:)

He isn't skinny. He's probably young. Nice Pin. :gj:

Very nice looking pin! What an adorable snake!

yay pictures!

He's a cutie.

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

He isn't skinny. He's probably young. Nice Pin. :gj:

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I agree it doesn't look skinny... Nice Pick up :gj:

wow looks nice too

Nice pin. Looks very good. Ive been looking for a nice pin female to go with my male axanthic. :sweeet:

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

He isn't skinny. He's probably young. Nice Pin. :gj:

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That's what I thought when I first saw him, then I asked how long she owned him, her answer, 4-5 months.

He is healthy, I don't think he's missed too many meals, but the seller said he hadn't eaten for a week or two, so who knows?

He is the most shy baby ball I've ever seen, he's afraid of his own tail. I'm thinking live mice are too spooky for him, so I'll try pre killed first. I'm also thinnking he's going to be an over night eater. Nice and dark and quiet.

We'll give him some time to settle into his new enclosure, I'm honestly think of putting him into a much smaller tub than usual. This guy is so spooked at the least little thing.


Thank You!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by cristy.russell

Nice pin. Looks very good. Ive been looking for a nice pin female to go with my male axanthic. :sweeet:

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I'm calling the snake a him because that's what the seller said it was. I'll pop it in a few days and see what I really have. Probably a male, but who knows!

Thank You!
Jim Smith

Handsom pin! Nice pic up, and nice photos!

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Originally Posted by jsschrei

Handsom pin! Nice pic up, and nice photos!

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Thank you!
Jim Smith

Im confused as to why it was a 'rescue'.


Just because it was on CL doesnt mean you 'rescued' it.


I mean its a good lookin pin, dont get me wrong.

I just see a bunch of people 'rescuing' snakes...that aren't really in that bad of shape.

Such a handsome little pin :gj:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Im confused as to why it was a 'rescue'.


Just because it was on CL doesnt mean you 'rescued' it.


I mean its a good lookin pin, dont get me wrong.

I just see a bunch of people 'rescuing' snakes...that aren't really in that bad of shape.

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Well, if you look at the subject line it said rescued/kinda. I also thought that for 4-5 months old, a 185 gram snake is a little on the small side, don't you? No, he's not tick/mite infested, he doesn't have a RI, nor does he have ribs showing. But I didn't want a snot-nosed kid getting his mom and dad to buy this Pin. So I'm calling it a rescue/kinda thing.

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Well, if you look at the subject line it said rescued/kinda. I also thought that for 4-5 months old, a 185 gram snake is a little on the small side, don't you? No, he's not tick/mite infested, he doesn't have a RI, nor does he have ribs showing. But I didn't want a snot-nosed kid getting his mom and dad to buy this Pin. So I'm calling it a rescue/kinda thing.

Jim Smith

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Hahaha Touche

He's a nice pinstripe! My pin was a big pansie at first too, but recently has become a feeding machine. His clutch mate is still being assist fed too, and they're about 4 months old.

Hope he starts pounding meals for you!

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Originally Posted by Elise.m

He's a nice pinstripe! My pin was a big pansie at first too, but recently has become a feeding machine. His clutch mate is still being assist fed too, and they're about 4 months old.

Hope he starts pounding meals for you!

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I hope he will eat well for me. Since I don't know the husbandry by the seller, I'm just hoping if I warm him up, give him a nice hide and the appropriate size prey, he'll do better for me.

My only problem, I've got him in a tub on a dresser in the bedroom with a UTH doing the heating. Don't worry, it's on a rheostat and the temps are perfect. I have completely ran out of space. I really need to get that rack built soon.

I wish the wife would break her pencil, so this honey-do list doesn't get any longer.:rolleyes:

Thank You!
Jim Smith

He is def a nice score.

Just on a side note.
BP's don't have to hit 500-700g in a year. They also don't have to eat every week. This is actually what is called power feeding. It is done to speed up the breeding process. Its also not necesary. Yes most do it, but is better not to. A 2 year old ball at 400-500g isnt a bad thing. (unless of course your trying to beed said such ball and then thats just not going to hapen unless its a male :) ). It is better to not power feed your ball and to let females get 2000g+ at 3y+ before first breeding her.
Just my own thaughts on the matter. Not that they count too much.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

He is def a nice score.

Just on a side note.
BP's don't have to hit 500-700g in a year. They also don't have to eat every week. This is actually what is called power feeding. It is done to speed up the breeding process. Its also not necesary. Yes most do it, but is better not to. A 2 year old ball at 400-500g isnt a bad thing. (unless of course your trying to beed said such ball and then thats just not going to hapen unless its a male :) ). It is better to not power feed your ball and to let females get 2000g+ at 3y+ before first breeding her.
Just my own thaughts on the matter. Not that they count too much.

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Yes, I agree. I've been acused of feeding too small of a prey item to my snakes, but I don't think I need to get my snakes up to breeding size in one year. But if the previious owner had him for 4-5 months, he's probably 5-6 months old. I would expect a 6 month old male ball python to be somehwere around 300+ grams. 185 is what I would expect for a 2-3 month old ball python.


Thanks!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

I would expect a 6 month old male ball python to be somehwere around 300+ grams. 185 is what I would expect for a 2-3 month old ball python.


Thanks!
Jim Smith

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I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about average weights. My male who was born in September of 09' is only 159 grams.

And very nice pickup! He's got a sweet face :gj:

I think that looks like a nice pin, he looks healthy, don't rush to power feed him. Congrats :)

Seems a bit of confusion on what constitutes power feeding? Feeding a hatchling that is willing to eat every 4-5 days one appropriately sized meal is not power feeding. :confused:

That snake is an OK weight for his age. He looks healthy. Nice girth proportional to his length, etc. He is not starving by any stretch.

He may have been a late starter, eating smaller meals, whatever, but his weight is fine.

Bruce

Thanks to both of you. No, I won't be power feeding him. He'll get a mouse once a week. My only concern is his timidness. I know he won't eat live. So prekilled will be where I start. He could surprise me, but he has got to be the most timid ball python, I've ever seen. I was holding him last night when I got home with him. He just about wouldn't come out of a ball, when I did get him to stretch out, he would flinch with every one of my movements as well as his. He saw his tail move and he flinched and went right into a ball. It was kinda funny. He'll be fine. I'll feed him next week. Then we'll see where' we're at.

Thanks Again!
Jim Smith

i've got a new Albino that is very skiddish too. My wife walks by across the room and he jumps back. Hopefully yours and mine will get better with time. Good luck to you.

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Originally Posted by JeffD

i've got a new Albino that is very skiddish too. My wife walks by across the room and he jumps back. Hopefully yours and mine will get better with time. Good luck to you.

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Yeah, that's funny. I've got a Female Lesser a little bigger than the Pinstripe and she's a hisser. Hasn't struck at me, but she will let you know she doesn't want to be bothered. Amazing how these snakes almost have personallities!

Jim Smith

beautiful snake and great pick up. :gj:

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Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited

beautiful snake and great pick up. :gj:

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Thank You!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Thank You!
Jim Smith

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no problem jim. good to see its in good hands and you are not rushing it to get up to breeding size. Gonna make a great future breeder wither its male or female since u havent popped it yet. Im sure youve posted it before but how many bps do u own?i currently own 24 and i can honestly say its hard not to keep the number from getting larger. especially when i see craigs list adds for them. i took in a normal female around 4-6 years old from craigs list, decent weight but had sum serious healed scars on her side. Needless to say shes doing much better here and got the nick name scarface even tho theres no scars on her face.

Jim, thats a nice pin you picked up and it's definitely in the right hands. he looks good.

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Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited

no problem jim. good to see its in good hands and you are not rushing it to get up to breeding size. Gonna make a great future breeder wither its male or female since u havent popped it yet. Im sure youve posted it before but how many bps do u own?i currently own 24 and i can honestly say its hard not to keep the number from getting larger. especially when i see craigs list adds for them. i took in a normal female around 4-6 years old from craigs list, decent weight but had sum serious healed scars on her side. Needless to say shes doing much better here and got the nick name scarface even tho theres no scars on her face.

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At this time I only have 11 ball pythons. At one time, I bred 73 snakes. I got out of snakes for a few years. I started back last year. I've bred corns, kings, balls, sand boas, dumeril's boas, beardies, leos, yellow and red ackies, greek tortoises and tried my hand at chameleons too over the last 24-25 years. I've decided it's balls from now on.

This is the first snake I've bought on a whim. Every snake I've bought up until now, I've been very disciplined. Only buying the quality snake and the exact morph I wanted at that time. I don't know if this one will fit into my plans, but I had to give this guy a chance. Maybe I'll sell him later on, or maybe I'll find something to put him with.

Reptiles can be habit forming, but ball pythons are the king at this. It's hard for me to see a ball python I don't like. However, I'd have 1000 snakes if I didn't stick to my plans.

Take Care!
Jim Smith

Nice! Good deal in my eyes and he should grow into a nice big pin!

To be deserving of the title "rescued" or even "kinda rescued", I think the animal needs to be in a pretty dire situation. That Pinstripe looks like he has a decent amount of body fat, even if he isn't 800 grams at his age.

Personally, I think most animals in this hobby are probably overfed a little bit, not that that's necessarily bad. Just saying, I believe you are basing average weight ideals off of animals that are being fed very generously (maybe overfed a touch).

Anyway, beautiful animal! :)

nice snake. i have an open tub if you have no room for him :D.

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Originally Posted by chago11

nice snake. i have an open tub if you have no room for him :D.

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Let me think this over........NO. But thanks anyway.;)

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Hahaha Touche

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Im confused as to why it was a 'rescue'.


Just because it was on CL doesnt mean you 'rescued' it.


I mean its a good lookin pin, dont get me wrong.

I just see a bunch of people 'rescuing' snakes...that aren't really in that bad of shape.

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This is getting kinda pathetic really.

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

"information value"..........0

This is getting kinda pathetic really.

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And you're adding what value to this conversation? All I see is your post count is increasing.

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

And you're adding what value to this conversation? All I see is your post count is increasing.

Jim Smith

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BG is just trying to prove a point to the leeetle fellah. He thinks he has.

When BG gets to 2k he'll shut up.:P:D