stingless bee

hey yall i saw this amazing snake called a stingless bee can anyone tell me how this morph is made

Okay so Im not sure at first I thought we were talking about a stinger bee..... Then I saw the post with the pics of the stingless bee in it.... It looks like a pastel enchi spider.... but could be wrong.....

nope the pic above looked darker and the pattern was alil different and it said stinger bee and the lighter one w/ different pattern was called a stingerless bee

Derek (dr del) asked in the thread the animal was pictured in what it was a combination of. I replied in that thread stating that I believe it is a lesser enchi spider (lesser + stinger bee = stingless bee). It made sense to me at least, and that's what it looked like to me. It is likely the OP of that thread will come by and post later on sometime in that thread to verify whether I was correct or not.

im not sure about the price of stinger bees.. but an enchi is normally around 300-400.. maybe sometimes higher.. i would say prolly around 600-800 maybe higher.. but i couldn't see them being over 1,000.. but then again thats a guess.. so if im wrong somebody will let me know im sure lol...

Sting-less-bee is a spider,lesser,and a enchi.

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

Sting-less-bee is a spider,lesser,and a enchi.

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oh my bad i miss read that.. thought they were talking about stinger bees.. haha a stingless bee would be much more then a stinger haha lol. i could see that being around 2,000.. but its hard to say.. ive never seen one bfore.. or heard of one now since i think bout it lol..

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Originally Posted by Andrew24

oh my bad i miss read that.. thought they were talking about stinger bees.. haha a stingless bee would be much more then a stinger haha lol. i could see that being around 2,000.. but its hard to say.. ive never seen one bfore.. or heard of one now since i think bout it lol..

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I would guess something more like 5000 - 7500, but that is just my guess.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I would guess something more like 5000 - 7500, but that is just my guess.

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Ya I would guess they are around there also. :salute: Definently a lot more than $2,000!

Well a lesser bee is around 2000 alone. A good price would be around 3500 to 4000 considering the ingredients.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I would guess something more like 5000 - 7500, but that is just my guess.

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i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..

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Originally Posted by Andrew24

i don't see them being 5,000-7,500.. i thats just me but that just seems like a lot.. when other animals that have the same amount of genes are no where near that much.. such as the killer bee which has 2 pastels genes and 1 spider gene... and those go anywhere from 1500-2000... and i bet i could find a bp with 4 genes that isn't even that much... but the killer queen although i have never seen one for sale has 2 pastels genes one lesser gene and one spider gene.. 4genes.. that whould be more in the 7,500 price rang.. prolly more like 10,000 lol. but idk i just don't see the singless bee being 7,500... maybe at the most 3,000.. but that would be the most in my opinon..

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Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

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Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

Stupid Question What is Killer Clown ?? Any link to picture??
Thanks

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Super pastel clown... google has pictures...

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

Super pastel clown... google has pictures...

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Thanks Russ. I know how it looks i just don't know that they call it Killer Clown :)

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

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i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...

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i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...

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The super pastel is 1 gene it is just homozygous. And as far as breeding goes it only contributes 1 gene, and the more there are in combo the more worth it has.

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Originally Posted by Andrew24

i have to disagree with that lol.. well not all of it but the killer bee does not have just 2 genes.. each pastel gene is 1 gene.. so a super pastel is 2 genes.. becuase it takes 2 pastel genes to make a super pastel.... same with hets... becuase the pastel is only the het of the super pastel... so if you have a het that is one gene... so the clown would have 2 genes and then 2 more genes for the super pastel which is 4 genes (if we were talking bout the killer clown).... im not just making this up .. i say it cuzz thats what i learnd from other people on here and people on my youtube.. and it just makes more sence.. otherwise my pastel i have doesn't even have 1 gene... but yeah i do agree with what you said bout how many are available haveing a say in the price tag...

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Hmm I'm not an expert but i think Pastel/ Super pastel i one gene... Pastel is just visual het for super/pastel and super/pastel is just homozygous form of pastel.. I'm getting lost LOL. but this is how it works in Co-dom morphs I think. In Dominant morphs like Spider you Can have Super/Spider as well is a homozygous form of Spider Gene Is just not visual and You can't tell with one is with but still this is the same gene different alleles
So i Agree that killer bee is 2 gene mutation.

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Sorry I know my English suck ;) even after 5 years i US LOL

There have not been many enchi crossed done yet. You dont see these crosses everyday. A stingless bee is going to run upwards $5000 if you can even find someone willing to let go of one. An lesser bee is around $1700-$2000, add the enchi to that and you judt added a couple thousand more. It is not that easy to hit three genes in one so when you do those animals go for more.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

Killer bee is 2 genes. 1 heterozygous (spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel).
Killer Queen is 3 genes. 2 heterozygous (lesser and spider) and 1 homozygous (super pastel)

A 3 gene animal is worth more, let alone the 3 genes. The more expensive the genes in the combo the more expensive the combo.

The Killer Clown is selling for 25k that is only a 2 gene animal... It all depends on the genes involved and how many are available on the market. :gj:

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The clowns are more expensive because they are recessive. Recessive gened animals the female is more expensive and in co-dom and dom animals the male is more expensive.
I count clowns as 2genes as it takes one het gene from each parent to make it. I also count pastel as 1gene and super pastels as being two (same as het you need one gene from each parent).

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

The clowns are more expensive because they are recessive. Recessive gened animals the female is more expensive and in co-dom and dom animals the male is more expensive.
I count clowns as 2genes as it takes one het gene from each parent to make it. I also count pastel as 1gene and super pastels as being two (same as het you need one gene from each parent).

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This was all taken to another thread. As far as the price of the killer clown, recessive combos are generally more expensive, but I was simply making a point because it is a 2 gene animal that is worth more simply because it is rare.

2000 where you get your lessers from i wanna sell you wateva. lessers are like 5 to 8 hundred

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Originally Posted by BPTexas_Pete84

2000 where you get your lessers from i wanna sell you wateva. lessers are like 5 to 8 hundred

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He said the lesser bee. AKA the Spider Lesser is 1700 - 2000.

does anyone have a picture i tried google but no luck just bees lolz:8:

Hi,

First post in this thread. :)


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