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  • 02-06-2009, 03:35 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    to much paint will get you high!!!!!!!!!

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00234.jpg
  • 02-06-2009, 05:27 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    ok got the hood doors on. well painted

    please comments

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...IMG00238-1.jpg
  • 02-06-2009, 06:23 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    looking good but i will point out a couple problems( in my book)
    1 that will not go around corners or up stairs very well.
    2 it will take at least 2 if not possible 3 people to move that hug sucker.
    3 that doors for the front will need with to be sliding glass (which suggest some metal U tracks to ride in as well as some locking type device) unless your setting it up to hold tanks I am just glancing at the pictures mostly lol..
    4 in my book i set th vents ot one side of the unit with an opengi /closing type 9 liek the old wood stoves ) to control the amount of air movement in and out to prevent drafts and uneven heating..

    I also switched to rack to prevent the issues I had with my cages ( mainly being space since they measusred 4ft*2ft*2ft and it took 2 grown men to move them ( since i not able to lift them due ot my cp i hadto pay 2 people to move them for me )
  • 02-06-2009, 07:32 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    thanks man if i ever move out of this house and well when i do im gonna have to build another rack cause my boa well be hugh by then so prolly build a 6x2x2 or 6x3x2 and put my bp on top of that. hopefully ill have a boat load of them so i have to make a hugher rack, but ill make it where that one comes apart in sections. but for doors, i was thinkin of door that swing out cause it much cheaper then buyin U racks which i cant find anywhere.

    do you know where i can find U tracks that will hold two plexiglass panels and a lock for them???? if so tell me know so i can go get them. i rather have sliding doors then swinging doors

    get back to asap or send me a PM or if you have the info i need email me at timderiksen@gmail.com

    one more thing its not that heavy just 4 1/4 sheets of 1/2" birch plywood hahahahahahahahahaha its a beast
  • 02-06-2009, 08:29 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    heres a pic just showing the textured coat compared to just reg. paint

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00242.jpg
  • 02-06-2009, 08:55 PM
    zombie&lemons
    finish coat
    whats nicer textured or just reg. paint

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00242.jpg
  • 02-06-2009, 09:00 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    I just want to point this out, but that seems like a mighty fire hazard with all of those heat lamps, squished in between the wood enclosures like that. And that the top enclosures would get extremely warm from the rising heat, not to mention, lamps themselves would put out a lot of heat in one area, imagine all of that heat rising and overheating the top levels lights.

    Unless you're doing it just for a small coil flourescent light.... just for light.

    I can't see it being very safe. :confused:
  • 02-06-2009, 09:02 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: finish coat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    whats nicer textured or just reg. paint

    Merged to already existing thread!
  • 02-06-2009, 09:13 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    I just want to point this out, but that seems like a mighty fire hazard with all of those heat lamps, squished in between the wood enclosures like that. And that the top enclosures would get extremely warm from the rising heat, not to mention, lamps themselves would put out a lot of heat in one area, imagine all of that heat rising and overheating the top levels lights.

    Unless you're doing it just for a small coil flourescent light.... just for light.

    I can't see it being very safe. :confused:

    what????? them lamps dont get that hot also if you say heat rises, in which it does, then you dont really have to heat the other cages as much cause it already warm.

    i have a 2 cage rack in my room right now and never had a problem. everything is well ventilated. my bottom cage had 4 vents all adjustable. I have experimented with opening and closing different vents and what the response is i found out if you put one vent on the top where your day time heat lamp is and then one on the bottom where then cool side is. then you get a good circulation of air in the cage. like you said heat rises

    so thanks for your thoughts if my house catches on fire you will be the first to know ahahhahahhahahahha:banana:
  • 02-06-2009, 11:16 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    so thanks for your thoughts if my house catches on fire you will be the first to know ahahhahahhahahahha:banana:

    Connie was offering you constructive criticism. Which is what you seem to be asking for consistently...
  • 02-06-2009, 11:33 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    i know. i was just playing around. i actually i was happy she made that post cause i never thought about it getting to hot . i'm sorry if i was harsh i wasn't being serious

    ill have more pics soon maybe in hour or so so keep a look out

    and please comment good or bad we are all here to learn about BP's and whats best for them. That's why we join a forum to learn from people and learn from other people mistake, there accomplishments, and there successes

    thanks you guys/ and cutie gals

    tim
  • 02-07-2009, 01:57 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    let me know what yall think of the textured look. i love it i paint my speaker boxes with with this stuff

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00260.jpg

    seee
    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00055.jpg
  • 02-07-2009, 02:04 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    it's different, I would call it a good different. Could hold alot of dust and be hard to clean though. Correct?
  • 02-07-2009, 02:05 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    nah total opposite.

    with the clear/sealer finish on the bottoms of each cage will smooth it back out
    but besides that its some great stuff. 10bucks a can ive used three cans so for
  • 02-07-2009, 02:09 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    So how much has this costed you so far? I assume you aren't doing a running total, but ballpark.
  • 02-07-2009, 02:16 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    hmm about 180 in wood. 60 in paint rest i had plexiclass i have. then just 20bucks in change for hardware

    is that a lot?? remember im making this to my spec not someone elses im making to be amazing looking something you could sell so when im done im gonna put it through a photo shoot something someone would want to buy or have me build. "not trying to sell anything just explaining why im going all out on this"
  • 02-07-2009, 02:21 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    my subwoofers and box was like 600 and change to put together
  • 02-07-2009, 02:23 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    understood, showing off your handywork. I would too if I had the time/money to build something like that...got the skills but not the space.
  • 02-07-2009, 02:28 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    yeah im just showing off what i can do you know you have to sell your self and your work and what you build sells it self you just gotta put it out there
  • 02-07-2009, 02:32 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    as long as there is a demand for it. But I may very well design an eclosure system much like this one.
  • 02-07-2009, 02:34 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    well if you need any help on how to just hit me up pm and ill give you me info
  • 02-07-2009, 02:35 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    will do.
  • 02-07-2009, 03:25 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    oh wow i just spread that clearcoat/sealer man wow did it get me high its making me feel dizzy and just high everything is fuzzy typing is wierd

    for those whole even look or read this tread if you paint or clearcoat/sealer make sure you have proper ventilation or youll end up like me.
  • 02-07-2009, 03:38 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    oh wow i just spread that clearcoat/sealer man wow did it get me high its making me feel dizzy and just high everything is fuzzy typing is wierd

    for those whole even look or read this tread if you paint or clearcoat/sealer make sure you have proper ventilation or youll end up like me.

    wow i fell normal again and i just realized i cant spell
  • 02-07-2009, 10:22 AM
    WickedBalls
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    I like the textured look.The cage is going to turn out awesome too!What kind of speakers did you put in that box?You've got skillz dude!:gj:
  • 02-07-2009, 12:22 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    do you know where i can find U tracks that will hold two plexiglass panels and a lock for them???? if so tell me know so i can go get them. i rather have sliding doors then swinging doors

    Exactly what I suggested in the first place. lol. www.outwaterplastics.com You can find metal or plastic there. Of course the plastic is much cheaper and actually preferred by most.

    I'm not sure if you know this, but real glass is much cheaper than plexi or acrylic. I would not think for a second about putting anything less that 1/4" plexi or acrylic in those cages......they will escape.

    As far as the heat lamps go, I'd have to agree about the fire hazard. You can remedy this by using a rheostat or thermostat. A 60W lightbulb in an inclosed area can heat up to nearly 300 degrees.
  • 02-07-2009, 02:17 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WickedBalls View Post
    I like the textured look.The cage is going to turn out awesome too!What kind of speakers did you put in that box?You've got skillz dude!:gj:

    thanks man there Massive audio tw12's 500watt rms each
  • 02-07-2009, 02:32 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    this is all true but if i get good ventilation i should be fine I THINK I HOPE SO as for as plexi when i make my door frams i cut a 1/8'" rove then slide the plexy in and make sure its a tight fit then i seal it . i know snakes are strong and can break tanks but im not to worried about the doors since i make them really well built. . this is all trial and error what i mess up on i can always fix. all in all I'm learning more and more.

    i wish i could afford the U tracks with 1/4 lexan. which is 200 times stronger than glass. shoot plexiglass is 100 times stronger than glass

    we'll see what happens ill keep a close eye out on temps in the hood area. i did leave the back of the hoods open for ventilation but if i have to ill cut holes on the sides and put vents on there too. and maybe a small fan in the vent if i can find something like that

    thanks for the advice i really take it to heart and it has changed some of my thinking about somethings and things to watch out for. i got some good ideas if heat becomes a problem
  • 02-07-2009, 08:23 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    well making the doors today but this is the hard part is getting everything straight and i was only able to get !/3 of the hardware dangit
  • 02-08-2009, 12:01 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    hmmm really didn't do alot today mostly ran around getting hardware and picking out hardware and could never make up my mind. at first i wanted brass then couldn't match the hinges to the locks and handles. so i decided on going with polished stainless then couldn't match hinges to that. then i figured out that i would just go with the stainless and paint the hinges so thats what im doing but i did do some wood working i cut all the door frames and did all thing things i needed to do to put the plexi in the frames

    pics
    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00262.jpg

    heres how i hold the plexi in place
    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00268.jpg
    i cut a grove with the table saw and have the blade height set to 3/8"
  • 02-08-2009, 02:17 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    ok got hood doors on im still waiting on plexi glass to finish the bottom doors

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00269.jpg
  • 02-08-2009, 07:37 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    add two more doors and sold my cages by design cage thank god
    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00270.jpg
    i got some plexi but just waiting for the glue to dry so i can mount the doors
  • 02-08-2009, 08:50 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    anyone want so updated pics
  • 02-08-2009, 08:52 PM
    dr del
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Hi,

    What kind of gaurd is there to stop the animals getting in contact with the bulbs?

    Did you mount mesh in the holes or is it built into the shades - and how do you hold those securely in place?


    dr del
  • 02-08-2009, 11:36 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    What kind of gaurd is there to stop the animals getting in contact with the bulbs?

    Did you mount mesh in the holes or is it built into the shades - and how do you hold those securely in place?


    dr del

    i put a wire mesh and hot glue it down so for i haven't had any problem with the hot glue getting sticky or anything of the sort on my other little cage and my last cage i made
  • 02-08-2009, 11:37 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
  • 02-09-2009, 12:06 AM
    DutchHerp
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Those are GOOD LOOKING cages. Only thing that bothers me a little is the enclosed areas for the heat lamps...
  • 02-09-2009, 12:06 AM
    max123
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    I have a suggestion. With the lamps behind the doors maybe add some comp fans. A hole on each side with an intake fan and a outtake to keep the temps down in the space. But that is a awesome set of cages.
  • 02-09-2009, 12:28 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    thats what i was thinking of doing if i have problems with heat the backs are open so it isn't enclosed completely heres a pic from the rear view

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00274.jpg
  • 02-09-2009, 12:38 AM
    DutchHerp
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    That looks pretty good, but I still think the computer fan is a great idea.
  • 02-09-2009, 12:52 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    same here i thought of that while back ago maybe like on day 4 or 5 and today is day 8 of the build
  • 02-09-2009, 12:56 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    i know this doesn't add to the strength of the locking of the door but it helps and it helps keep the door 100% closed. its little magnets how cute

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00275.jpg
  • 02-09-2009, 01:56 AM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    here we go got one cage done

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00277.jpg

    its about time

    and im tired. tomorrow is the big move its going in my room the rest well be assembled there

    1 question though. How long should i wait till i put my boa in there? week, tomorrow, few days, a year, month. help please
  • 02-09-2009, 02:52 AM
    Mitch21
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    What kind of costs are you looking at for this thing? I really like your design but instead I'm thinking about building something similar with xpvc.
  • 02-09-2009, 01:53 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    im looking at 300 in part right now but if i was gonna sell it i would sell it for 2g's just cause of labor

    here a pic after the sealent on the plexi doors dried
    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...c/IMG00279.jpg
  • 02-09-2009, 02:07 PM
    stevenkeogh
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    I don't think anyone would pay 2K for it.
    What types of paints, sealants did you use?
    You may run into the problem of seriously harming the snakes you put in it due to off-gassing of the products used to finish the surface.
    -Steven
  • 02-09-2009, 02:14 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    nah everything should be ok you gotta let everything set and harden and let it self ventilate before you putting any reptile in the cage. perforable when the smell of paint is gone wait another few days to intorduce you reptile to its new home. it should matter what type of paint you use as long at it is not toxic and has no LEAD

    so people use melamine well thats made with phromaldahide sorry can spell but i tried
  • 02-09-2009, 02:40 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevenkeogh View Post
    I don't think anyone would pay 2K for it.
    What types of paints, sealants did you use?
    You may run into the problem of seriously harming the snakes you put in it due to off-gassing of the products used to finish the surface.
    -Steven

    do you wanna know the brands i used??
  • 02-09-2009, 03:45 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    questions for heating in my cage im gonna use lamps is there anything else i could do to control the heat in case i have a peak cause the house time rises or anything of the sort.
  • 02-09-2009, 03:49 PM
    tweets_4611
    Re: here we go building a 4 cage rack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    questions for heating in my cage im gonna use lamps is there anything else i could do to control the heat in case i have a peak cause the house time rises or anything of the sort.

    You should get a thermostat to keep them under control. Since it looks like you are going to have a lamp on each side, you will probably need two...or have a smaller wattage bulb on the cooler side. A thermostat will keep the lamps at a set temp. even if the room temp. fluctuates.
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