Beware of the snake man

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Sorry, that may have worked in 'the good old days' of the internet, but these days it's not so easy. And calling PETA or HSUS and giving them free ammunition is just plain stupid.

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Im sitting next to two IT guys right now who could have that IP address in a flash.

Giving them free ammunition?? Are you kidding me? Peoples beloved dogs and cats being murdered is not "free ammunition." This is a horrific, heinous cruel act of savagery that absolutely needed to be reported to ANY law enforcement agency that could have found and prosecuted this man. Pure and utter evil. I think that you all don't understand the seriousness of this crime. This is a serious crime that can and should bring jail time.

Sorry for the explosion. As much as I love my snakes, I love my dogs infinitely more.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Im sitting next to two IT guys right now who could have that IP address in a flash.

Giving them free ammunition?? Are you kidding me? Peoples beloved dogs and cats being murdered is not "free ammunition." This is a horrific, heinous cruel act of savagery that absolutely needed to be reported to ANY law enforcement agency that could have found and prosecuted this man. Pure and utter evil. I think that you all don't understand the seriousness of this crime. This is a serious crime that can and should bring jail time.

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I agree with you Josh, it is Cruel and DOES deserve jail time. I love would love to find this guy alone in a room.
However, getting PETA involved?
That is ONE camel's nose that you don't want in your tent!

You think the Lacey Act is bad. Before you know it we won't have the right to ANY constrictors anymore when they get through.

Pick your battles wisely. This is one hill that you don't want to die on.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Sorry for the explosion. As much as I love my snakes, I love my dogs infinitely more.

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I understand.

After a divorce not long ago, kids are gone, my dogs are my life.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Im sitting next to two IT guys right now who could have that IP address in a flash.

Giving them free ammunition?? Are you kidding me? Peoples beloved dogs and cats being murdered is not "free ammunition." This is a horrific, heinous cruel act of savagery that absolutely needed to be reported to ANY law enforcement agency that could have found and prosecuted this man. Pure and utter evil. I think that you all don't understand the seriousness of this crime. This is a serious crime that can and should bring jail time.

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I too agree that it should bring jail time, but as you said LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, HSUS and PETA are not law enforcement agencies the are boarderline radical groups pushing an agenda, they don't care about bringing one person to justice they care more about pushing animal bans across the board.

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

I too agree that it should bring jail time, but as you said LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, HSUS and PETA are not law enforcement agencies the are boarderline radical groups pushing an agenda, they don't care about bringing one person to justice they care more about pushing animal bans across the board.

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This. HSUS and PETA are no more "law-enforcement" than the NRA is.

IP addresses, email addresses, telephone numbers on caller ID, etc. are all easily spoofed.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

I agree with you Josh, it is Cruel and DOES deserve jail time. I love would love to find this guy alone in a room.
However, getting PETA involved?
That is ONE camel's nose that you don't want in your tent!

You think the Lacey Act is bad. Before you know it we won't have the right to ANY constrictors anymore when they get through.

Pick your battles wisely. This is one hill that you don't want to die on.

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lmao she ran a blog where in she posted pics of herself laying around naked with her snake wrapped around her and talking about mysticism and sexual awakening wrt to owning the critter. Seriously fetishized big snake keeping, it was weird. But hey, if you want to be alone in a room with that, I ain't gonna stop you. Different strokes ;)

And yeah public doesn't exactly have access to contact with the website's IT department. Tumblr isn't a small, private forum, it's a huge platform for millions of individuals to run unmoderated blogs. No one on the website actively reviews content for legality. Even TOS violations have to be reported and go through the system first. Much of their services are automated. This all happened within a span of a couple hours in one day, where as contacting a live person on the staff, getting the issue seen to, and then finally had something done about it would have likely taken a week for each step.

Believe me, if there was more that could have been done at the time, there are at least five of us in my personal circle that would have done it, not to mention all the other people that became aware of the situation. In this day and age protection of the person using the site and their privacy is the top concern of most websites. This comes with both benefits and draw backs. I can be assured as a user that some weirdo isn't going to make up stories to get my home address and come stalk me, but that also means we can't get that info on someone doing legit bad things. If they get caught in their home town, then the local authorities will deal with it as that state and city's laws provide.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

This. HSUS and PETA are no more "law-enforcement" than the NRA is.

IP addresses, email addresses, telephone numbers on caller ID, etc. are all easily spoofed.

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Thats what I was saying. Josh had made the law enforcement comment, I was stating they were more along the lines of a "radical/political" type group pushing an agenda.

Yeah you guys are right. I forget that PETA is nuts and wouldn't do anything productive.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Im sitting next to two IT guys right now who could have that IP address in a flash.

Giving them free ammunition?? Are you kidding me? Peoples beloved dogs and cats being murdered is not "free ammunition." This is a horrific, heinous cruel act of savagery that absolutely needed to be reported to ANY law enforcement agency that could have found and prosecuted this man. Pure and utter evil. I think that you all don't understand the seriousness of this crime. This is a serious crime that can and should bring jail time.

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Not only is PETA not a law enforcement agency, the organization spreads some pretty serious misinformation about exotics... Not just the fear-mongering kind (which it does) but general care info as well. The official site has 'care pages' detailing how to properly care for companion animals, and let's just say the page for reptile care is sorely lacking. Here's the link just for giggles: http://www.peta.org/living/companion...ring-reptiles/

(I'm vegan, and as much as I dislike PETA, they have about the biggest repertoire of vegan recipes around, so I've spent quite a bit of time clicking around their site. I also think it's good to have a good idea of what people who so violently oppose pet ownership are actually saying and how they try to justify their points)

Unless a situation is so bad that every animal involved would be better off dead, you don't even want to THINK of getting PETA involved. Their field teams are generally made up of individuals with little to no official training (such as an animal control officer might have), no knowledge of what is and is not legal to do for an animal without the owner's permission, and an intense devotion to the idea that animals should not be kept as pets period. The end result of getting them involved would have probably been a dead burm and a psychopath who still felt justified in trapping and killing their neighbors' pets.

It's not that we don't understand the seriousness of the crimes, it's that no one involved had the resources or knowhow to get this person's location, and if they did, local law enforcement should have been contacted, not some organization that thinks having pets is equivalent to owning slaves. I don't think you have a grasp of how toxic these organizations are and how little they really do to advance animal welfare.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Yeah you guys are right. I forget that PETA is nuts and wouldn't do anything productive.

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You wrote this while I was writing my post :P Sorry.

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Originally Posted by DVirginiana

Not only is PETA not a law enforcement agency, the organization spreads some pretty serious misinformation about exotics... Not just the fear-mongering kind (which it does) but general care info as well. The official site has 'care pages' detailing how to properly care for companion animals, and let's just say the page for reptile care is sorely lacking. Here's the link just for giggles: http://www.peta.org/living/companion...ring-reptiles/

(I'm vegan, and as much as I dislike PETA, they have about the biggest repertoire of vegan recipes around, so I've spent quite a bit of time clicking around their site. I also think it's good to have a good idea of what people who so violently oppose pet ownership are actually saying and how they try to justify their points)

Unless a situation is so bad that every animal involved would be better off dead, you don't even want to THINK of getting PETA involved. Their field teams are generally made up of individuals with little to no official training (such as an animal control officer might have), no knowledge of what is and is not legal to do for an animal without the owner's permission, and an intense devotion to the idea that animals should not be kept as pets period. The end result of getting them involved would have probably been a dead burm and a psychopath who still felt justified in trapping and killing their neighbors' pets.

It's not that we don't understand the seriousness of the crimes, it's that no one involved had the resources or knowhow to get this person's location, and if they did, local law enforcement should have been contacted, not some organization that thinks having pets is equivalent to owning slaves. I don't think you have a grasp of how toxic these organizations are and how little they really do to advance animal welfare.

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You wrote this while I was writing my post :P Sorry.

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Youre right. I'm wrong. Poor form by me! I now stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Youre right. I'm wrong. Poor form by me! I now stand corrected.

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I saw your post about PETA being crazy after I had written the first part of that, otherwise I wouldn't have tried to keep driving it into the ground lol.

You (and anyone else) should still totally check out their link on reptile care. If it weren't being pedaled as actual care information, it would be funny.

Every time I think of PETA I think of how they wanted to rename fish to "sea kittens" so no one would eat fish. :8:

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Originally Posted by Marrissa

Every time I think of PETA I think of how they wanted to rename fish to "sea kittens" so no one would eat fish. :8:

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I just cackled out loud.

Sometimes to think that poeple can't possibly be this nuts, but then someone from PETA opens their mouth again and- welp.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

lmao she ran a blog where in she posted pics of herself laying around naked with her snake wrapped around her and talking about mysticism and sexual awakening wrt to owning the critter. Seriously fetishized big snake keeping, it was weird. But hey, if you want to be alone in a room with that, I ain't gonna stop you. Different strokes ;)

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Uh, I thought we were talking about a stereotypical dude with macho issues. :O

Sorry. :confusd:

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Uh, I thought we were talking about a stereotypical dude with macho issues. :O

Sorry. :confusd:

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Ehehe, funny how with the crazy ones the snakes is always a penis replacement in some form or another, isn't?

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

Ehehe, funny how with the crazy ones the snakes is always a penis replacement in some form or another, isn't?

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That may be the best thing I've ever heard.:D

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Originally Posted by JoshSloane

Are you kidding me? HSUS and PETA DEFINITELY needed to be contacted about that, not to mention police.

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Just so it's perfectly clear. HSUS is the same as PETA. Neither are law enforcement and neither wants to help any pet owner. They want to outlaw owning pets. Period. They have zero authority. They are not police nor are they a government agency. Don't say "PETA is crazy" as if HSUS isn't the same thing. HSUS is happy to have PETA do the outlandish crazy stuff so when they put up their ideas of crazy laws banning all pets it sounds reasonable.

And as for the other crazy guy who thinks it's great fun to tell outright lies and make snake owners look like psychopaths, please, don't help us. Don't own reptiles. Don't pretend to own reptiles. Just don't. I don't care if you think people can't be educated. I don't care if you think "only stupid people will believe". It's a stupid idea and it's not funny. How can you possibly say you love your own pet and still think it's hysterical to make another pet owner upset because they believe you'd murder THEIR pet? "Oh I was telling an outright lie" doesn't make it okay to tell the lies. You can't UnSpeak words. In the age of the internet, you can't un-do the damage.

To the OP, please, if you're going to be posting on Craigslist, as least be specific about the "prey items" you want. It's still a bad idea, after all, you'd be getting unknowns to begin with. What were all the animals treated with before they were given to you? With the idiots that abound out there, you could get a deliberate poisoning from contaminated animals just to save a little money or time. ALso, a tip, if you add in things like "Needed: FROZEN rabbits or rodents as food", people won't think as poorly of it. That makes it clear you want animals to be used as food, and aren't looking for someone's beloved pet bunny to feed to your reptiles.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

lmao she ran a blog where in she posted pics of herself laying around naked with her snake wrapped around her and talking about mysticism and sexual awakening wrt to owning the critter. Seriously fetishized big snake keeping, it was weird. But hey, if you want to be alone in a room with that, I ain't gonna stop you. Different strokes ;)

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I was trying to remember this specific incident (there've been some strange ones on tumblr) but THAT made me remember her. Yeah, that was a big mess.

Anyways. I can't even begin to say how angry it makes me when I see people in the reptile community making "jokes" about things like this. It makes me wonder if they are even paying attention to the fight we're all facing. Whether we like it or not, each one of us represents the reptile community as a whole. And even things said in jest can get blown up.

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Originally Posted by Boomerang

For fun, i went on Craigslist and posted something just for laughs in the pet section and got everything from "snakes are vile...blah blah blah" to "I hope you die a painful death soon..".


For the record I don't even have a Burmese

NEEDED ASAP: Bushel or so of young white kittens.

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OK I got a couple nasty-grams from posting this previously. Someone wants me dead and someone for some reason thinks some kind of "karma" will come from this.

Lame and un-professional. I'm just a woman with a large snake that needs to eat!

And for the lady telling me how she "feels" snakes to be vile, disgusting and so on - we maybe you should look at your own diet before judging. Hypocrite!


Hello friends!
I have a very healthy Burmese Python "Shadow" who had escaped from his previous owners tank and ate his cat's entire litter of kittens.
Well the unfortunate part is that Shadow will now only feed on white kittens. She refuses to take anything else.

My current kitten supplier has run out and I am now in search of a more stable supply or short term supply of about a bushel of them. She is a voracious kitten eater so she will take many in one feeding, then be good for about 3 weeks.

Please shoot me an email with details. Shadow is hungry and she get's a little agitated when she is.

Attached are pictures of Shadow and the perfect size kittens

Thanks and God Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There you go. People elaborated as to why this post wasn't funny... While maybe we would see it as satire, the great majority of people who know little-nothing about burms are thinking that you are seriously legit. While anyone can look at the TMNT thing and KNOW that it is all in fun. Do you see the reasoning here...? It's true. PETA, abomination that they are, would take a post like this and make it into all kinds of BS which we know isn't true, but which the public as a whole would accept as fact, while they could not twist TMNT into "Turtle owner feeds pet pizza in horrid abuse case" without a pic and re-write.

LOL this is great.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

Boom, you think this is funny because to you it's ludicrous that someone would actually take pets and feed it to other pets.

I have first hand knowledge about how this very much isn't the case. A few months back on tumblr there was a user who kept a burm, who advocated trapping as a way to feed large constrictors cheaply. At first they said they only trapped pest species and let others go, but later they admitted they would trap dogs and cats. Not just strays either, they'd trap animals that they knew to be neighbors pets because they felt in the right at the animals where trespassing on their property after they'd warned the owners to keep them confined to their own yards.

This person saw absolutely nothing wrong with this, and maintained that they were totally in the right, even in the face of massive criticism from the rest of the tumblr reptile community. They even linked youtube how to videos to encourage others to do this. That's how mess up this was. Eventually we got the youtube channel taken down and they deleted their blog to avoid anymore backlash. It only would have taken one PETA or HSUS nut finding that blog before they scampered to make a whole lot of trouble for the rest of us though. The biggest problem for the reptile hobby as a whole is that it's looked at with fear and suspicion by those outside of it, and it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. That's why we need to present a united image of rational, reasonable, sane, and responsible pet owners. When people like that do pop up, it's up to us to call them on it, or else go down with them when the inevitable crap storm hits the public fan.

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makes sense, I hear you