Lose 20lbs and help BP.net!!

Hey guys!

Just wanted to share something I noticed at the gym today. I went before work and I weighed myself before I started my workout. I was 264 lbs.. I know your not supposed to weigh yourself afterwards due to the fact that you sweat and lose a lot of water so the reading wont be accurate. I was curious how much of a variation there was so I weighed myself.. I was 153lbs!! I lost 11 lbs in an hour and a half LMAO. At first I thought the scale must be broken but I weighed my shirt and it was 9lbs with all the sweat! It blows my mind how much your body can fluctuate with water retention! Just thought I would share that, I thought it was pretty cool.. LOL

Also I was talking to a personal trainer about fat loss and muscle retention, and he gave me a pointer that I thought I could pass on to you guys and girls. This trainer used to be 350lbs and now the guy is ripped! He said he never ran a day in his life to lose the extra fat. All he did was walk at a fast pace (3.5-4) on the treadmill at an incline of 9. Apparently when you do cardio your only burning fat for the first 10-15 minutes, and then you start burning muscle tissue. When you walk your burning calories but your heart rate isn't high enough to push your body into a catablic state (catabolism is when your body turns in ward for an energy source.. i.e. burns fat..). So when your walking on a large incline your heart rate rises to the necessary 130bpm, but you can do it for a longer period of time without burning muscle. This way you can burn more fat, keep more muscle, work out longer, and hopefully see better/ healthier results.. This is what I have been doing so I will report in a couple of weeks to let you know how effective it is.



I know I owe you guys some pictures.. I will get them up ASAP. I'm going to make my weigh in days on fridays so I will have a new weight for you then, and a picture before that time.

Cheers!

I have another story from the gym that was a little weird. I thought I would share too.. LOL

Okay so I'm on the treadmill, and my gym is pretty big, there is about 50 or so treadmills. Well I'm about 25 minutes into my incline exercise and the lady next to me lets one rip. It was BAD!! Obviously she is embarrassed and leaves the treadmill area but the whole area reeked! At this point I'm noticing other people looking around to try and figure out who dropped the bomb. The smell is coming from my area, and now I'm the only one in my row of treadmills. I contemplated getting off and calling it a day but than I figured that would make me look like the guilty party so I decided to keep going. This woman comes over and gets on the treadmill next to me. I look over to see if she is going to notice the smell LOL!! She turns to me and gives me the nastiest look and goes to another row.. There was nothing I could do or say that would change the fact that now everyone in the room thinks I'm disgusting LMAO!! It probably didn't help that I was looking around wildly at all the people judging me... :rolleyes: I just couldn't win.. Eventually I burst out laughing so I'm sure people will just think I'm crazy.. :rolleye2:

LOL!


Anyways just thought I would share my embarrassment with everyone! Hope you enjoyed it.

Chris.

Chris, that was hilarious! :D

I'm in. :) I've actually already lost 20 lbs from the start of this year, but I'll go for another. (lost due to the flu+ mood swings) I'm 5'4 and 138 lbs as of yesterday. I don't have too much more to lose, But I'd like to get down into the 20's. I've never been skinny as an adult, so I think it'd be fun to see, even though I know I couldn't maintain it. I'd like to be at and maintain 135 tho. So that'll be my personal goal. :) My hip to waist ratio is still in the dangerous area, and I still have about 6 inches of extra fat around my waist.
Depression and anxiety really mess with my weight. I comfort eat, grr! :oops:

I'm joining. :) I PMd you =P

As for the story with the trainer. Did he say how long he did it for each time? I'd love to give it a try.
Time to use that gym membership I've been paying $10 a month for. lol (Been there 3 times...in 2010...ha)

Chris, your treadmill story had me laughing so hard! If I was the lady that ripped butt, all I would have done was shrug and say "oops?" Lmao!!

Anyway, I am just over 120lbs, but I have a muffin top that needs to go, along with jiggly thighs and a small pudge of a belly. My goal is to wear a bikini comfortably on the beach for vacation this summer. So while I am not looking to lose weight, I definitely want to tone up! I will be here cheering everyone on, adding my progress and donating $20 as well :)

Ok Let me join the Race...I'm 6'2 and 245LB as of Today... actually I need loose like 30 lb but if i can do 20 that's good too....

I'd like to join in as well. I've sort of started WW since the beginning of the year but I'm doing it all on my own, no meetings or online input. I love cooking but I've always been bad about frying foods and eating generally unhealthy foods so I've started cooking differently, even buying the WW cookbooks (and DL'ing free ones from amazon to my kindle app). I've found some from great tasting recipes but also some that I don't like at all (flour-less chocolate cookies yuk!). I think one of my main problems is simply not exercising. I recently got a Wii/Wii fit system and it's still sitting in the box :oops: I've still got to set up the area to lay it out (ie: the computer room) which is a mess.

I Vow to start cleaning up my work out area. I also vow to start working out once the area is set up because I need to get healthy. I'm 5'3" and weigh 219 lbs (as of yesterday) and I also have HBP, insomnia, and pms. I'll post my after pictures :) I plan to lose the 20lbs and more. My main goal is to lose at least 50lbs and to just be healthy.

Good Luck everyone! I wish you well on getting HEALTHY!

I think this is just what I needed! I was considering losing some weight but haven't really gotten around to cracking down on a good diet and exercise routine. I've looked into a couple of things and think I am going to go with the 17 day diet (already read the book and was wondering if anyone else has done this) and I would like to get into "professional" roller derby so I guess I'm strapping on those old skates of mine.

Height: 5'7"
Start weight: 175
Goal weight by end: 135 (40lbs overall by end of August)

Please tell me if I'm crazy for making a 40lb goal in that time or if it seems realistic. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by RuthlessReptiles

I think this is just what I needed! I was considering losing some weight but haven't really gotten around to cracking down on a good diet and exercise routine. I've looked into a couple of things and think I am going to go with the 17 day diet (already read the book and was wondering if anyone else has done this) and I would like to get into "professional" roller derby so I guess I'm strapping on those old skates of mine.

Height: 5'7"
Start weight: 175
Goal weight by end: 135 (40lbs overall by end of August)

Please tell me if I'm crazy for making a 40lb goal in that time or if it seems realistic. Thanks!

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My goal its 70 by august so I dont think you are crazy!

I'm down 13lbs in 20 days! I'm on schedule to be finally under 200 by the beginning of next week!

sent from my EVO

These diets such as 17 day diet, weight watchers and such are not sustainable. Eating properly is. Crash diets do nothing except starve your body of what it needs.

WW isn't a diet it's a life style change. It teaches you to control your portions by paying attention to how much you put into your body. The points are a guide line to get you used to controlling your portion amount. It also teaches you to eat healthier, say you want a nice juicy hamburger but a full on 1/4 pound hamburger is around 12 points (don't quote me on this) but last night i made Turkey burgers with spinach and feta cheese (and greek seasoning) on a wheat bun and it was only 8 points. I also had some yummy roasted sweet potatoes and steamed veggies which only added 3 extra points and it didn't even add up to the 12 points if I had gave in and ate a greasy hamburger!


And by the way, my Great Grandmother does WW, she weighed 300lbs when she started She now weighs 165 and walks every morning, she's healthier than she has ever been and she's 88 years old. Never to late to get healthy.

You can not say because someone went from 300# to 165# and walks that she is any healthier. In fact if she didnt do any weight training she lost lean tissue and now is weaker than when she started. Based on this logic, anorexic people are extremely healthy and we all know for a fact that isnt true.

I was going to write an article on why WW doesnt work but this article sums everything up. Minus one factor that I was going to add. (Yes a simple google search will bring this article up for you)

http://www.threecoaching.com/2010/12...ons-it-doesnt/

One additional thing I was going to add is the fact that humans hate keeping up with numbers. Eventually we grow bored and tired and fall off track.

Here is another good article.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...esnt-work.aspx

Hey Guys,

Sorry I haven't been on for the last couple of days. I have had a lot on my plate this week. I am really happy to see more people including themselves in this goal and am really happy to have all of your participation!

I will do my best to respond as much as I can to everyone's posts. I promised you all updates this weekend and I plan to live up to that promise. The pictures are going to have to wait until tomorrow.. sorry. I am at work now and I was having some issues moving the photos to my computer. As for weight loss this is where I am standing.

Start: 265lbs
Current: 259lbs.

I am trying to weigh myself before my workouts, even though I generally have food in my stomach but as I mentioned earlier in the week, if I weigh myself after workouts I can be 10 lbs lighter so I want to keep my "weigh-ins" as accurate as possible.

So i lost 6 lbs in 2 weeks and I am pretty content with that. I am trying very hard to hang onto what muscle I have so I don't want to lose the weight too quickly or I am going to have to work twice as hard to reach my long term goals.

On a side note I just ate 4 filets of plain sole.. at work.. so I am kinda smelly and not about to by very popular... luckily I work nights and the only one I have to worry about is my partner and I am about to join him in the office so if he murders me, make sure $100 from my life insurance makes it to you guys, LOL.

Cheers!

Chris.

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I'm in. :) I've actually already lost 20 lbs from the start of this year, but I'll go for another. (lost due to the flu+ mood swings) I'm 5'4 and 138 lbs as of yesterday. I don't have too much more to lose, But I'd like to get down into the 20's. I've never been skinny as an adult, so I think it'd be fun to see, even though I know I couldn't maintain it. I'd like to be at and maintain 135 tho. So that'll be my personal goal. :) My hip to waist ratio is still in the dangerous area, and I still have about 6 inches of extra fat around my waist.
Depression and anxiety really mess with my weight. I comfort eat, grr! :oops:

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Awesome! Thanks for participating. Depression, mood swings and anxiety are definitely huge obstacles to over come when it comes to weight and health. Depression and Anxiety runs in my family so I know how difficult it can be to stay motivated. I really wish you the best of luck in attaining your goals!

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by ShutUpAndSmile

I'm joining. :) I PMd you =P

As for the story with the trainer. Did he say how long he did it for each time? I'd love to give it a try.
Time to use that gym membership I've been paying $10 a month for. lol (Been there 3 times...in 2010...ha)

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That's stupid cheap for a gym membership. Regular gym membership at my club is $92.00 / month. I have the corporate rate so I am only paying $45.. I wish it only cost me $10! LOL

He said you could do it for an hour if you wanted to, but he recommended 20-30 minutes. I only do 30 minutes personally.

I responded to your PM.

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by heathers*bps

Chris, your treadmill story had me laughing so hard! If I was the lady that ripped butt, all I would have done was shrug and say "oops?" Lmao!!

Anyway, I am just over 120lbs, but I have a muffin top that needs to go, along with jiggly thighs and a small pudge of a belly. My goal is to wear a bikini comfortably on the beach for vacation this summer. So while I am not looking to lose weight, I definitely want to tone up! I will be here cheering everyone on, adding my progress and donating $20 as well :)

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Hey Heather!

LOL I still laugh about it when I jump on the treadmill! LOL

Thanks so much for your input as well! I agree with you, 20lbs sounds like too much for you but I do wish you the best of luck in achieving your goals. I too want to wear a bikini on the beach this summer :) :rolleyes:

Maybe I will take pictures and scar the entire forum for life!

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

Ok Let me join the Race...I'm 6'2 and 245LB as of Today... actually I need loose like 30 lb but if i can do 20 that's good too....

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That's fantastic! Thanks for joining! :)

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Originally Posted by Akira

I'd like to join in as well. I've sort of started WW since the beginning of the year but I'm doing it all on my own, no meetings or online input. I love cooking but I've always been bad about frying foods and eating generally unhealthy foods so I've started cooking differently, even buying the WW cookbooks (and DL'ing free ones from amazon to my kindle app). I've found some from great tasting recipes but also some that I don't like at all (flour-less chocolate cookies yuk!). I think one of my main problems is simply not exercising. I recently got a Wii/Wii fit system and it's still sitting in the box :oops: I've still got to set up the area to lay it out (ie: the computer room) which is a mess.

I Vow to start cleaning up my work out area. I also vow to start working out once the area is set up because I need to get healthy. I'm 5'3" and weigh 219 lbs (as of yesterday) and I also have HBP, insomnia, and pms. I'll post my after pictures :) I plan to lose the 20lbs and more. My main goal is to lose at least 50lbs and to just be healthy.

Good Luck everyone! I wish you well on getting HEALTHY!

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Thanks so much for including yourself!!

Weight Watchers can work wonders for people! My mother has been on and off of it for years and every time she devoted herself to it she lost 40 lbs. She didn't excise above walking (My mother is blind and doesn't really have the access to the same outlets most people do). It really is just about making some lifestyle changes, the greasy foods, exercise, excuses.. LOL I am glad to see you are putting forward an effort and I know it will serve you well!

Looking forward to hearing about your progress!

Thanks again :)

Chris.

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Originally Posted by RuthlessReptiles

I think this is just what I needed! I was considering losing some weight but haven't really gotten around to cracking down on a good diet and exercise routine. I've looked into a couple of things and think I am going to go with the 17 day diet (already read the book and was wondering if anyone else has done this) and I would like to get into "professional" roller derby so I guess I'm strapping on those old skates of mine.

Height: 5'7"
Start weight: 175
Goal weight by end: 135 (40lbs overall by end of August)

Please tell me if I'm crazy for making a 40lb goal in that time or if it seems realistic. Thanks!

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40 lbs by September is an awesome goal. I have never heard of the 17day diet. (Looks like I will be doing some research later :) ) I never learned how to skate or roller blade. I tried to learn 2 summers ago and gave up after a couple of days. I don't think it was ever meant to be LOL.

Thanks so much for being a part of this!

Chris.

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Originally Posted by Clear

You can not say because someone went from 300# to 165# and walks that she is any healthier. In fact if she didnt do any weight training she lost lean tissue and now is weaker than when she started. Based on this logic, anorexic people are extremely healthy and we all know for a fact that isnt true.

I was going to write an article on why WW doesnt work but this article sums everything up. Minus one factor that I was going to add. (Yes a simple google search will bring this article up for you)

http://www.threecoaching.com/2010/12...ons-it-doesnt/

One additional thing I was going to add is the fact that humans hate keeping up with numbers. Eventually we grow bored and tired and fall off track.

Here is another good article.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...esnt-work.aspx

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I respect everyones opinion, and although I agree with you about crash diets, I don't 100% agree with everything you've said.

I've done just about every diet. I have done Atkins, Ketogenics, crash diets, Weight Watchers. ALL of them work, but most of them are unhealthy and post-diet weight gain is pretty much guaranteed. You are absolutely correct about that.

Weight Watchers however is a much healthier change to lifestyle and eating habbits. In the beginning it was about restricting calories and gave no consideration to macro-neutrients. It's changed a lot over the years to incorporate healthier eating when it comes to fats, proteins, and carbohydrates. There is much more to it now than simply cutting your calories.

I want to elaborate on my goal for this "program." I said 20lbs as a guideline - that is my personal goal and over 5 months, its a completely healthy one. My over-all hope is not that people become obsessed with losing 20lbs in anyway way possible. My goal is that people, including myself, start exploring healthier lifestyles and eating habits. If your focused on crash dieting and dropping 100lbs as fast as possible than your not going to enjoy it, and you will likely regress in the future, correct. Everyone's goals are all attainable, and there is a healthy way to go about that. To think that you wont reach your goals because people don't like to keep track of numbers, is ridiculous. It's negative, unnecessary and not helpful to anyone. Some people feel negatively about weight loss and that's largely based on societal trends, fine.

I was over 300lbs. I dropped over 100lbs without any weight training and was very unhealthy. But it was 1 step in a longer term goal. I went from 300 lbs to 190 lbs up to 240lbs at 10% body fat. I am not recommend that people follow that course of logic - but I would have to say that someone who is 300+ lbs is less healthy than someone who is 160lbs that walks..

Not everyone has the knowledge to balance muscular development, cardio, nutrition, and still maintain a state of catablism. It's great that you have done all this research and if you have pointers for people I would love to hear them.

Cheers.

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To think that you wont reach your goals because people don't like to keep track of numbers, is ridiculous. It's negative, unnecessary and not helpful to anyone. Some people feel negatively about weight loss and that's largely based on societal trends, fine.

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You missunderstood what I wrote. People love to lose pounds, thats for sure. But keeping track of the numbers with WW gets old.

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Originally Posted by Clear

You missunderstood what I wrote. People love to lose pounds, thats for sure. But keeping track of the numbers with WW gets old.

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Maybe it gets old to you but I LIKE keeping my food diary on the app I got for my phone.

I'm not doing WW but am on a restricted diet. It consists of:
2 lean proteins
4 veggies
2 fruits
2 carbs
4oz skim milk

keeping track all day keeps me aware of what I'm putting into my body. And seeing it in writing helps me not "cheat".

sent from my EVO

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Originally Posted by Clear

These diets such as 17 day diet, weight watchers and such are not sustainable. Eating properly is. Crash diets do nothing except starve your body of what it needs.

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The thing about the 17 day diet thing is that it's a little misleading; its not just 17 days, it is four cycles of 17 that promote eating lean proteins, vegetables and fruits (eating fruits sparingly) the first cycle, then reintroduces certain foods on the next two cycles and on the final cycle, you eat what you know will sustain your bodies needs without gaining weight. It also promotes daily 17 minute exercise routines. So long story short, it isn't really a crash diet considering it's main function is to re-educate you on what a healthy diet and watching your intake is and considering the last cycle goes on forever, it is considered a lifestyle change.

I am not for crash dieting at all and would never intentionally do something that I know will backfire on me. That's just dumb. But I feel that this "diet" is more of a re-education program. But that's of course just my 2 cents.

I also keep track of what I eat. I used to either eat way too little or way too much. I really like keeping track of what I eat. What I put into my body and how much of it.
Also, I keep forgetting to put this up!! This is a fantastic smoothie!! I have one every morning. Tastes good, is great for you....be prepared for a lot of energy! Haha.
Green smoothie!!
2 big handfuls of spinach
1/2 to 1 cup frozen (or fresh) mango chunks
1/2 to 1 cup frozen (or fresh) peach slices
1 fresh banana and 1/2 frozen banana
1 1/4 cups water
Blend. Enjoy!
(*some days I also throw in around 1/2 cup pineapple chunks)
You can use other fruits, this is just what I use.

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Originally Posted by CLSpider

I also keep track of what I eat. I used to either eat way too little or way too much. I really like keeping track of what I eat. What I put into my body and how much of it.
Also, I keep forgetting to put this up!! This is a fantastic smoothie!! I have one every morning. Tastes good, is great for you....be prepared for a lot of energy! Haha.
Green smoothie!!
2 big handfuls of spinach
1/2 to 1 cup frozen (or fresh) mango chunks
1/2 to 1 cup frozen (or fresh) peach slices
1 fresh banana and 1/2 frozen banana
1 1/4 cups water
Blend. Enjoy!
(*some days I also throw in around 1/2 cup pineapple chunks)
You can use other fruits, this is just what I use.

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Thanks for the recipe! :b how do you keep track btw? Myfitnesspal.com has a great app and has a great website for keeping track of meals and fitness.....I'm beginning to feel like a billboard. O_O

Yep, I use the myfitnesspal app and LOVE it!!

Im not going to comment on the last few things. I am not trying to drag anyone down.

If you guys didnt check out the first set of video's I posted please do so. Here is another good video that I think is a must watch for weight loss. If you havent learned by now that there is a lot more to weight loss than just working out and reducing what you eat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhObSu7y2_A

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Originally Posted by Clear

Im not going to comment on the last few things. I am not trying to drag anyone down.

If you guys didnt check out the first set of video's I posted please do so. Here is another good video that I think is a must watch for weight loss. If you havent learned by now that there is a lot more to weight loss than just working out and reducing what you eat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhObSu7y2_A

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Awesome Link!! Thank for sharing!

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Originally Posted by Clear

Im not going to comment on the last few things. I am not trying to drag anyone down.

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I'm going to respect the fact that you don't want to "drag any of us down" but it seems like you're doing a crackerjack job of it lol.

I'm curious as to know if you have even read the 17 day diet book. I'm going to assume (since you didn't directly mention that that video was directed at the "crash dieters") that your awesome video on feast and famine was directed at my previous posts.

I'll respect the fact that you don't want to start a food war and neither do I, but it would be great if you wouldn't assume that just because it has the word diet in the name that it's out to starve you. I invite you to actually read the book and then come back to me about how I'll be starved if I follow the guidelines of the book. :rolleyes:

By the amount of food in their meal plans, I'll be more than swimming in food, but instead of it being the wrong kinds (the stuff I'm eating now), it will be the right kinds.

Just an update, I finally broke the 200 lb bar that I was stuck at for a few days and I'm now down 15lbs to 199!

That leaves me with 50 to go!

sent from my EVO

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Just an update, I finally broke the 200 lb bar that I was stuck at for a few days and I'm now down 15lbs to 199!

That leaves me with 50 to go!

sent from my EVO

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Congrats! :gj:

No I havent read the 17 day diet book but I will safely assume that the reviews people posted on the diet outlines the basic process.

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Cycle 1, called "Accelerate," strips your diet down to the bare bones of approximately 1,200 calories per day. It promises weight loss of 10-15 pounds, most of which is water weight.

“This phase cleanses, hydrates, removes unhealthy carbs, improves unhealthy eating habits, and stimulates fat metabolism," Moreno says.

In cycle 2 (called "Activate,") the food plan is alternated with a slightly higher-calorie activate plan. Moreno says the zig-zag between cycles keeps the metabolism guessing, helps prevent boredom, and continues to stimulate fat burning to yield about a 5-6 pound weight loss.

Cycle 3, called "Achieve," is the stabilization period that allows healthier foods with a slower rate of weight loss of about 2-3 pounds, Moreno says.

Cycle 4 -- the final phase, called "Arrive" -- is when you arrive at your goal weight. In cycle 4, follow meal plans from one of the earlier cycles during the week with controlled splurges on weekends to maintain your new weight.

Exercise at least 17 minutes a day during the first two cycles – primarily walking because of the limited calorie intake. In the later cycles, ramp up exercise to 150-300 minutes per week for continued weight loss.

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Source: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/17-day-diet-review

Cutting your calories down to 1200 a day will put your metabolism into starvation mode. Meaning it will slow it down. Once your metabolism is in this mode your body will do its best not to burn a lot of energy.

On the second cycle you will be adding more calories to a slow metabolism. This will not simply move your metabolism out of starvation mode and metabolism shocking or confusion is not a proved hypothosis.

http://youtu.be/kfzX14YfimU

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Originally Posted by Clear

No I havent read the 17 day diet book but I will safely assume that the reviews people posted on the diet outlines the basic process.



Source: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/17-day-diet-review

Cutting your calories down to 1200 a day will put your metabolism into starvation mode. Meaning it will slow it down. Once your metabolism is in this mode your body will do its best not to burn a lot of energy.

On the second cycle you will be adding more calories to a slow metabolism. This will not simply move your metabolism out of starvation mode and metabolism shocking or confusion is not a proved hypothosis.

http://youtu.be/kfzX14YfimU

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In your videos, he even states that a high protein, good sources of fat and low carb diet with "unlimited" calories works for weight loss and that's exactly what the book goes by if you would actually take time to read it.

Here's an excerpt from the ACTUAL BOOK that you might find interesting:

"On this Cycle [the Accelerate Cycle] you can eat unlimited protein—including meat, poultry, eggs and fish, as well as many vegetables. But you limit your carbohydrate intake by initially cutting out white bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, chocolate, biscuits and sugary desserts and sweets. Fruit and fats are not banned, and that’s good because both will add sweetness and flavor to your diet."

Funny...isn't that what the guy in your video just preached about (near the end of the video)? Sounds like these guys might get along! So realistically, the amount of calories one gets each day on this "diet" is based off of how full one feels, not the calorie count.

I invite you to read the book and then come back to me instead of selecting general reviews from selected sources. I'm sure you can go to the library and pick up a copy if you don't want to spend money on it.

"Starvation mode happens via hormonal changes with leptin and ghrelin (which can cause cravings/extreme hunger) as well as lowered energy (if you move less + sleep more, you burn fewer calories). It takes a long period (weeks or even months) of eating less than 50% of your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure)."
--Pulled from MFP

To address the study in your video, I would be in serious trouble if I dropped my TDEE by 50% for an extended period of time.

My personal TDEE = 1569.8 calories
50% of that would be = 784.9 calories

Lesson here? I'm not a burly manly man that needs more then 3000 calories a day or I will start being whiny, moody or throw hissy fits when I'm standing in line for food. I couldn't say the same thing if I dropped my cals down to 784 though; I would be a hormonal walking nightmare, but I'm not dropping my TDEE by 50% so I shouldn't have the same problems that those men did. My goal is to stay within the 1500 cal limit and considering I would be eating about 1000 cals (or more) less then I do right now, I would still shed plenty of weight and actually be on a healthy path without risking my health.

But really (and sorry if this comes off as mean), why are you trying to argue with me about a book that you have never read? It seems kind of backwards and ridiculous and all I'm hearing out of you are assumptions about the book and some opinions from a guy with a video camera about things that don't even pertain to the book itself or it's methods for weight loss (considering that there is no calorie restriction on the diet and that's what the video was about).

So I guess what I'm asking for is for you to stop assuming what this book is about and actually pick it up and read it before you criticize it with such scrutiny. Again, I know it says "DIET" in the title but you can't just assume it's another crash diet based off of the title.

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Originally Posted by HighVoltageRoyals

In your videos, he even states that a high protein, good sources of fat and low carb diet with "unlimited" calories works for weight loss and that's exactly what the book goes by if you would actually take time to read it.

Here's an excerpt from the ACTUAL BOOK that you might find interesting:

"On this Cycle [the Accelerate Cycle] you can eat unlimited protein—including meat, poultry, eggs and fish, as well as many vegetables. But you limit your carbohydrate intake by initially cutting out white bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, chocolate, biscuits and sugary desserts and sweets. Fruit and fats are not banned, and that’s good because both will add sweetness and flavor to your diet."

Funny...isn't that what the guy in your video just preached about (near the end of the video)? Sounds like these guys might get along! So realistically, the amount of calories one gets each day on this "diet" is based off of how full one feels, not the calorie count.

I invite you to read the book and then come back to me instead of selecting general reviews from selected sources. I'm sure you can go to the library and pick up a copy if you don't want to spend money on it.

"Starvation mode happens via hormonal changes with leptin and ghrelin (which can cause cravings/extreme hunger) as well as lowered energy (if you move less + sleep more, you burn fewer calories). It takes a long period (weeks or even months) of eating less than 50% of your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure)."
--Pulled from MFP

To address the study in your video, I would be in serious trouble if I dropped my TDEE by 50% for an extended period of time.

My personal TDEE = 1569.8 calories
50% of that would be = 784.9 calories

Lesson here? I'm not a burly manly man that needs more then 3000 calories a day or I will start being whiny, moody or throw hissy fits when I'm standing in line for food. I couldn't say the same thing if I dropped my cals down to 784 though; I would be a hormonal walking nightmare, but I'm not dropping my TDEE by 50% so I shouldn't have the same problems that those men did. My goal is to stay within the 1500 cal limit and considering I would be eating about 1000 cals (or more) less then I do right now, I would still shed plenty of weight and actually be on a healthy path without risking my health.

But really (and sorry if this comes off as mean), why are you trying to argue with me about a book that you have never read? It seems kind of backwards and ridiculous and all I'm hearing out of you are assumptions about the book and some opinions from a guy with a video camera about things that don't even pertain to the book itself or it's methods for weight loss (considering that there is no calorie restriction on the diet and that's what the video was about).

So I guess what I'm asking for is for you to stop assuming what this book is about and actually pick it up and read it before you criticize it with such scrutiny. Again, I know it says "DIET" in the title but you can't just assume it's another crash diet based off of the title.

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Sounds like someone has their panties in a bunch, sorry if I ticked you off but I stick to what I said. In a year let us know how the results are. :gj:

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Sounds like someone has their panties in a bunch, sorry if I ticked you off but I stick to what I said. In a year let us know how the results are. :gj:

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I don't know where you're getting this indication that I have my "panties in a bunch", I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. Quite the contrary; I just feel that someone shouldn't argue about something that they haven't looked into. That's all that post was about; no hints of anger - I just know that some people get all defensive when their assumptions are proven wrong (hence the "sorry if this sounds mean" statement).

I addressed your concerns and videos and you just want to write me off because I debunked your false accusations? Oh well....I guess you can't convince everyone.

I'm actually curious now to see what type of meal plan you follow. I'm just confused as to how you want us to lose weight without a calorie deficient of some kind. I'm overweight because I eat over my maintenance calories....so how would cutting that back be bad for me and make me fatter? It would only make me fatter if I did a deficit (within an unhealthy range), got down to a good size and started overeating again on a regular basis [which does happen with some people]. What do you recommend?

Be sure and private message me in a year to remind me to send you current pics of myself after all of this because I will probably forget. :gj:

Hey guys,

This is WAYYYY overdue but I finally was able to get my photo's uploaded. So without further ado this is me at 260lbs.. This month is going to be difficult for me to keep up with diet and exercise as I have 3 family birthdays, and valentines day to deal with.. LOL I haven't weighed myself since my last weigh-in and I don't plan to until this friday. I am expecting weight gain, but I will be very happy if I keep sitting at 258lbs.

I will post pictures for every 10lbs I lose.

Cheers.

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please excuse the mass amounts of chest hair.. I live in Canada and need to keep warm in February LMAO!

My boss just gave me his bowflex xtreme! I've ALWAYS hated working out at the gym...with everyone watching you...so I never go there anymore, but now I can work out in my house again! I put it in my reptile room so I'll be sure to get a nice sweat going on lol.

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My boss just gave me his bowflex xtreme! I've ALWAYS hated working out at the gym...with everyone watching you...so I never go there anymore, but now I can work out in my house again! I put it in my reptile room so I'll be sure to get a nice sweat going on lol.

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I really want a bowflex! can't afford one though :\. I was looking at the treadclimber, but used they go for a grand :mad:.. Congrats on the new equipment. They are awesome machines!

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I really want a bowflex! can't afford one though :\. I was looking at the treadclimber, but used they go for a grand :mad:.. Congrats on the new equipment. They are awesome machines!

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Well, I won a $100 tackle box with lures in it and he said "hey, I'll just trade you for the bowflex" I was going to try it out and he was going to give it to me for $200 if I liked it, and it was $1500 new! I guess I'm doing a good job haha. Is there a Craigslist or something like it in Canada? I've seen some decently priced there.

Update:

Beginning Weight: 175
Current Weight: 171
Total lost so far: 4

Goal for end of Feb: 167

Started the actual diet and exercise plan at the beginning of the month and have seen some nice results. Keeping a 2 pound per week goal for now. How is everyone else doing? :3

Im now at 130 I have lost 12 pounds but Im not going to lose anymore seeing as its going to be coming back in the next 9 months....

I am on day 3 of Weight Watchers. I'll update on Monday when I weigh myself. I decided to go with WW as opposed to Slim Fast simply because WW is much healthier, and easier to maintain your weight once you reach your goal. I'm excited to see the results.

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Im now at 130 I have lost 12 pounds but Im not going to lose anymore seeing as its going to be coming back in the next 9 months....

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to be coming back in the next 9 months....

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back in the next 9 months....

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next 9 months....

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Sorry to jump to conclusions, but are you pregnant?! :D

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sorry to jump to conclusions, but are you pregnant?! :d

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;P yeah

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Congrats you rapscallion! :P

I am excited to say that after my first week of Weight Watchers and NOT feeling starved at any point, I've lost 4.4 lbs :D

congrat lgrey!

I have finally, after a couple weeks of not losing, have hit the 20lb lost mark! Just 50 to go!

sent from my EVO

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Update:

Beginning Weight: 175
Current Weight: 171
Total lost so far: 4

Goal for end of Feb: 167

Started the actual diet and exercise plan at the beginning of the month and have seen some nice results. Keeping a 2 pound per week goal for now. How is everyone else doing? :3

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That's awesome!!