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  • 11-17-2010, 07:45 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    I would like to see your "fader" as you call it in a pic posted here with "hi ball pythons.net members" in the pic.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    OK well one i never said it was a fader. 2 i dont even use photo shop. And 3 I have no problem showing the snake off. Even if it wasnt a fader it is still awsome to me. It ainte a rhttp://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...hots/baby2.jpgegular pastel. But ok call me out. LOL. Hers the pic
    http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...hots/baby3.jpg

    There from my cell phone so????

    You did not put the words above i asked in the pic of the snake you have called your fader pastel on BLBC.
  • 11-17-2010, 07:45 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Then i must say id like to see a pics of ur collection :)

    Like seeing peoples collections maybe u could take some pics and post them in the pic section =)

    I have some pics but all on my cell phone. Lets see if my girl will let me barrow her camera. Mynes broken. But for sure, I will post some. Thanks for the interst.
  • 11-17-2010, 07:49 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    You did not put the words above i asked in the pic of the snake you have called your fader pastel on BLBC.

    thats the one and I called it a possible because dan told me it could be possible for it. Now he doesnt want to admit to that and thats fine. Maybe he was just trying to make the sale. But i believe I got what I paid for him. He is beautiful. I bought him as a normal pastel price but its all good.
  • 11-17-2010, 07:55 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    thats the one and I called it a possible because dan told me it could be possible for it. Now he doesnt want to admit to that and thats fine. Maybe he was just trying to make the sale. But i believe I got what I paid for him. He is beautiful. I bought him as a normal pastel price but its all good.

    Never mind you have confirmed my thoughts about you and your collection.So i am done with you and your threads :rofl:
  • 11-17-2010, 07:57 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Never mind you have confirmed my thoughts about you and your collection.So i am done with you and your threads :rofl:

    why would I put that on the top of the post. Sounds suspicios to me. And what thoughts do you have about me because obviosly you know nothing about me?
  • 11-17-2010, 08:00 PM
    corgigirl9
    I just think that many of us have seen, heard of, or adopted a poorly cared for snake or animal and it breaks our hearts. I think the most important thing is that the snakes are well cared for. It sounds like you came here for some advice and I would take it. This site is an excellent place to get help and more information on care for reptiles and the administrators and other posters are very knowledgeable and helpful. I am not sure they really get the recognition deserved because they've help me with questions many times. I think this is just to say that I am thankful for this site.:D
  • 11-17-2010, 08:00 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    Ok I was not trying to impress anyone and I am not trying to act like a tough guy. I have been there done that. This is me. I say what I say but I will try and improve on what I say. If you really think you havent done anything look how you are talking to me. Look how your friend is insulting me. If you believe that you are right about that then you are way wrong. I admit that I need to work on how I come off here but please understand that you have said way to much and altercated a bigger viewing of this thread. So if you believe that you are right than think about it. You are being just as combative as me. Now lets shut it down and maybe one day we can talk eye to eye but I assure you right now you are making me mad with your insults. Like I said I am not a kid, maybe young but not a kid. Our experiances of life are all different. I might know a lot more about other things then you. But it doesnt matter. I said what I said and corrected it and you continued. What does that say on your behalf?

    1) I don't know who this friend is that you're referring to.

    2) I never insulted you. If my post made you angry, then perhaps it hit a little close to home.
  • 11-17-2010, 08:03 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    Ok I was not trying to impress anyone and I am not trying to act like a tough guy. I have been there done that. This is me. I say what I say but I will try and improve on what I say. If you really think you havent done anything look how you are talking to me. Look how your friend is insulting me. If you believe that you are right about that then you are way wrong. I admit that I need to work on how I come off here but please understand that you have said way to much and altercated a bigger viewing of this thread. So if you believe that you are right than think about it. You are being just as combative as me. Now lets shut it down and maybe one day we can talk eye to eye but I assure you right now you are making me mad with your insults. Like I said I am not a kid, maybe young but not a kid. Our experiances of life are all different. I might know a lot more about other things then you. But it doesnt matter. I said what I said and corrected it and you continued. What does that say on your behalf?

    Also - please show me where I called you a kid?
  • 11-17-2010, 08:12 PM
    seeya205
    He sure is acting like a kid! Why does it bother him so much that this guy called it a fader? Who cares! It is still a beautiful pastel and I am glad he shared the pics!
  • 11-17-2010, 08:25 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Also - please show me where I called you a kid?

    You didnt. It was the way you acted. And your friend that was posting the other comments that is also a vet here. The joepython guy. He is rediculios for his actions. And you all need to be more helpful. If I am angry it is because someone did something to make me that way. Wake up people, you did insult me by saying I dont have as much experience as I think and that if put up against you I would be inferior and nobody will buy from me on this site and all that. Wake up, one day I might just be the next big thing and you dont want to be on my list of people who will not get anything. I dont care if its a huge brakethrew and its worth a million dollars. The people who act like this to me will find that i am a go getter and its better to be my friend and understand me then to be on the other side. Please just say you are sorry for the insults. I have already said sorry for mine and extravigently tried to correct these mistakes. Please do the same and we can move on.
  • 11-17-2010, 08:31 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seeya205 View Post
    He sure is acting like a kid! Why does it bother him so much that this guy called it a fader? Who cares! It is still a beautiful pastel and I am glad he shared the pics!

    this guy knows that i got mad on BLBC and he knows that dan of TSK went on reptile radio and said that he never told me that. He basicly was just trying to get me angry which in turn I just gave him a pick and good bye. I thought I handled it well. There are some real morans on this site and if you havent read the hole thread its hard to have an opinion. Bottom line, some people cant take critisizm and some people cant hand it out without being arogent. If these people want to push my buttons they are not going to get a rise out of me. Even now i am sitting here calm as can be laughing at this situation.;)
  • 11-17-2010, 08:33 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    You didnt. It was the way you acted. And your friend that was posting the other comments that is also a vet here. The joepython guy. He is rediculios for his actions. And you all need to be more helpful. If I am angry it is because someone did something to make me that way. Wake up people, you did insult me by saying I dont have as much experience as I think and that if put up against you I would be inferior and nobody will buy from me on this site and all that. Wake up, one day I might just be the next big thing and you dont want to be on my list of people who will not get anything. I dont care if its a huge brakethrew and its worth a million dollars. The people who act like this to me will find that i am a go getter and its better to be my friend and understand me then to be on the other side. Please just say you are sorry for the insults. I have already said sorry for mine and extravigently tried to correct these mistakes. Please do the same and we can move on.

    I have not insulted you and therefore do not have anything to apologize for.

    And I said that your ACTIONS here and how you CHOOSE to behave may make people choose NOT to do business with you. That is not insulting - that is asking you to take responsibility for your own choices and how you choose to present yourself here and is actually sound advice. Take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me.

    Good luck with your endeavors.
  • 11-17-2010, 08:36 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    I have not insulted you and therefore do not have anything to apologize for.

    And I said that your ACTIONS here and how you CHOOSE to behave may make people choose NOT to do business with you. That is not insulting - that is asking you to take responsibility for your own choices and how you choose to present yourself here and is actually sound advice. Take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me.

    Good luck with your endeavors.

    You to and thanks for the original advice. I know it was all good hearted.
  • 11-17-2010, 08:42 PM
    seeya205
    We only know you and understand what kind of person you are by what you write! People here do not need to kiss your butt so you will like them. You do not show yourself in a good light. You should look at the way you acted! Rabernet and the others have treated you well until you started it up! You act like your 15, how can you have 15 years experience?
  • 11-17-2010, 08:52 PM
    dr del
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    **sigh**

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    And you all need to be more helpful.

    Actually if people had been less helpfull and not responded to your thread this mess wouldn't exist.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    If I am angry it is because someone did something to make me that way. Wake up people, you did insult me by saying I dont have as much experience as I think and that if put up against you I would be inferior and nobody will buy from me on this site and all that.

    Read this;

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    OK, so i have a 20 long glass tank. I have a flukkers heat pad taped with aluminum tape to the bottom at the hide box side of the tank, and a 100 watt light at the other end over the water bowl. The substrate is paper and I keep it clean. I soak my bp's about every week and I feed them about every 5 days. I do not have a thermostat for the pads but it says they can not go past 100 degrees. And I dont think its to hot for them anyways. I keep the heat pad on when I go to sleep and I put the light on when I wake up. I turn the heat pad off when I turn the light on.
    Is there anything I can do differently that might be better???

    Can you Identify one single phrase in that post that shows any evidence of your experience level or, like us, do the four bad husbandy mistakes jump out at you?

    Hint,

    "the hide end" - there should be one at either end at a minimum in a glass tank.
    "soak every week" - not only is this unnecessary it can actually cause problems.
    "I do not have a thermostat" - self evident. Also the apparent guessing at the temps.
    " I keep the heat pad on when I go to sleep and I put the light on when I wake up. I turn the heat pad off when I turn the light on." - they would be better kept at a constant day/night temp regime unless you are conditioning for breeding. And turning off belly heat to use an overhead source is just plain daft. Sorry but it is.

    Everything about that post screams beginner experience level - so get off your high horse and forgive us for not mystically intuiting you are an old hand with vast experience. To then say you house multiple animals together doesn't exactly help either.

    And they didn't say people wouldn't buy from you because of experience level - they said it because of your attitude.

    They are 100% right too.

    The following quote put you on the "never in a million years enter into a professional business transaction with this person" list. Seriously I wouldn't buy water from you in the middle of a desert after the veiled threats and posturing like this.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    Wake up, one day I might just be the next big thing and you dont want to be on my list of people who will not get anything. I dont care if its a huge brakethrew and its worth a million dollars. The people who act like this to me will find that i am a go getter and its better to be my friend and understand me then to be on the other side.

    That is seriously not going to help your case - that sentence put my back up and I have nothing to do with this thread or the arguments therein.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    Please just say you are sorry for the insults. I have already said sorry for mine and extravigently tried to correct these mistakes. Please do the same and we can move on.

    Moving on might be a good idea at this point. Put your rattle back in your pram, suck it up, and get on with your life.

    You cannot control what others type - but you absolutely control what you type. And it is your own words and actions that are digging you in deeper at this point.

    Take a break, gather your thoughts and stop digging the hole while you still can.


    dr del
  • 11-17-2010, 08:52 PM
    man-made evolution
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    [QUOTE=seeya205;1460339]We only know you and understand what kind of person you are by what you write! People here do not need to kiss your butt so you will like them. You do not show yourself in a good light. You should look at the way you acted! Rabernet and the others have treated you well until you started it up! You act like your 15, how can you have 15 years experience?[/Q

    Ok well just like what you just said I act like im 15. Thats being rude and disrespectful. By all means do what you want and act the way you want but i can no longer stay on this thread. Its getting out of hand. Like the saying goes " it starts as a snowball and ends in an avalanche." You guys are making it worse. Why cant we just get on here and talk about what we love instead of hating on each other?
  • 11-17-2010, 08:53 PM
    seeya205
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zbyers7 View Post
    this guy knows that i got mad on BLBC and he knows that dan of TSK went on reptile radio and said that he never told me that. He basicly was just trying to get me angry which in turn I just gave him a pick and good bye. I thought I handled it well. There are some real morans on this site and if you havent read the hole thread its hard to have an opinion. Bottom line, some people cant take critisizm and some people cant hand it out without being arogent. If these people want to push my buttons they are not going to get a rise out of me. Even now i am sitting here calm as can be laughing at this situation.;)

    I don't know what BLBC is! I notice you think everyone is trying to push your buttons, that sounds like an anger management problem!
  • 11-17-2010, 08:56 PM
    seeya205
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    [QUOTE=zbyers7;1460348]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seeya205 View Post
    We only know you and understand what kind of person you are by what you write! People here do not need to kiss your butt so you will like them. You do not show yourself in a good light. You should look at the way you acted! Rabernet and the others have treated you well until you started it up! You act like your 15, how can you have 15 years experience?[/Q

    Ok well just like what you just said I act like im 15. Thats being rude and disrespectful. By all means do what you want and act the way you want but i can no longer stay on this thread. Its getting out of hand. Like the saying goes " it starts as a snowball and ends in an avalanche." You guys are making it worse. Why cant we just get on here and talk about what we love instead of hating on each other?

    From reading the posts, everyone was talking about what they love until you started disrespecting them! You were rude and disrespectful to everyone who tried to help you! You get respect by giving respect!
  • 11-17-2010, 09:51 PM
    man-made evolution
    alright check this out. I give respect and get respect. I disrespect to anger. I show graditude to give praise and I become agressive when challenged. A sum up of who i am. Now who are you all? You bipass 20 sentences and comment on one. You take offence to things you should consider. You try and trump instead of lend a hand. You try and push instead of grasp. You turn down appoligies. You shut out everyones opinion but your own. OK. Now how much time have you and I put in to this hobby? How many of you agree with just the others? It is because you have been pushed into a dissiding factor where you are forced to take sides. Only a few did not take sides but spoke on there own feelings. For that I applaud you. But how many of you didnt? How many of you believed you where right no matter what? Everyone. How many of you have seen success with your life. If yes then why do you have to defend so vivaciosly? We are never fully mature until we can look back on our lives and say" wow, Thats what I did."
  • 11-17-2010, 10:33 PM
    JLC
    Re: Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???
    You know...there is an actual recognized syndrome in which someone can have such a vastly different view of reality that speaking to them is literally like speaking to someone with a different language.

    This thread is like watching (and participating in) an argument between an Italian and a Chinese person, each speaking their native tongue and not understanding a word the other person is saying.

    Wish I could remember the name of it...but regardless, I think we have witnessed it here. Time for this to end.
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