Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???

[rabernet]

ok im going into the time out room. LOL. Yea i hear ya but you gotta stop talking to me like i am a little kid. More trouble? Why is it not "hey cool out on this convo and you will be good." Or something relating to that. Please people, understand that I never lied about anything. I never acted like i was better than you, and I never put anyone down. But why is it ok for others to put me down? The critics out there are ruining me. Stop thinking of me of some complicative child and see that i am just talking and most of the time with a little sarcasm. Im a good peoples im not a bad guy! Im just from a different generation then you! LOL!!!

Two points I'd like to make - both are bolded.

1) You did put people down by pointing out that YOU don't have any normals, but they they ONLY had a normal and then pointed out that I had a lot of normals on my site and you have none (which came off as being a braggert). I presume you didn't look at my journal and only "The Nest" (which admittedly desperately needs to be updated). And you implied because I had a lot of normals and you didn't, that somehow your collection was somehow superior to mine.

It's great that you're excited about your collection of 12 animals and you're just starting out in this business at a relatively young age (22 is young to me). But when you insult (and your words were insulting, whether you intended them to be or not) others because they have normals in their collection, and toot your own horn about your animals as if they are somehow "better" than normals and that normals are "beneath" you now - you're also insulting all these large breeders you espouse to be so close with. They all have normals in their collections and their normals are a very integral part of their yearly breeding plans.

At the end of the day, our mutations are still ball pythons just with a different paint job. Being a mutation doesn't make them any more precious than a normal.

2)

The phantom "critics" are not ruining you. At some point you need to figure out what the common denominator is with your troubles on forums. And that would be you. YOU need to take responsibility for your own actions on forums and stop and think "what is it about my posting style that causes others to react this way to me?".

Instead of puffing out your chest and telling people they don't know who they're talking to, and demanding that they treat you with respect, you may want to think about being a little more humble and respectful in your posts as well. No one is impressed with an internet "tough guy". Instead, it has the opposite effect than what you desire. You LOSE respect when you DEMAND respect. Respect is earned, it's not bullied or forced out of people.

Also, no one is really impressed with WHO you know. They're impressed by how you decide to present YOURSELF. That's all. Many of us here are friends with different "big guys", we just don't find it necessary to point it out in a post to prove any points.

[joepythons]

Ok zybers7 i am calling you out on your collection of "morphs" you say you have.I would like to see your "fader" as you call it in a pic posted here with "hi ball pythons.net members" in the pic.My reason for asking this is simple.I think you are full of it plain and simple.Oh i can tell the differance if you photo shop the note in.So your call

[man-made evolution]

Ok zybers7 i am calling you out on your collection of "morphs" you say you have.I would like to see your "fader" as you call it in a pic posted here with "hi ball pythons.net members" in the pic.My reason for asking this is simple.I think you are full of it plain and simple.Oh i can tell the differance if you photo shop the note in.So your call

OK well one i never said it was a fader. 2 i dont even use photo shop. And 3 I have no problem showing the snake off. Even if it wasnt a fader it is still awsome to me. It ainte a regular pastel. But ok call me out. LOL. Hers the pic


There from my cell phone so????

[rabernet]

Ok zybers7 i am calling you out on your collection of "morphs" you say you have.I would like to see your "fader" as you call it in a pic posted here with "hi ball pythons.net members" in the pic.My reason for asking this is simple.I think you are full of it plain and simple.Oh i can tell the differance if you photo shop the note in.So your call

Joe - is it necessary to be antagonistic?

[man-made evolution]

Two points I'd like to make - both are bolded.

1) You did put people down by pointing out that YOU don't have any normals, but they they ONLY had a normal and then pointed out that I had a lot of normals on my site and you have none (which came off as being a braggert). I presume you didn't look at my journal and only "The Nest" (which admittedly desperately needs to be updated). And you implied because I had a lot of normals and you didn't, that somehow your collection was somehow superior to mine.

It's great that you're excited about your collection of 12 animals and you're just starting out in this business at a relatively young age (22 is young to me). But when you insult (and your words were insulting, whether you intended them to be or not) others because they have normals in their collection, and toot your own horn about your animals as if they are somehow "better" than normals and that normals are "beneath" you now - you're also insulting all these large breeders you espouse to be so close with. They all have normals in their collections and their normals are a very integral part of their yearly breeding plans.

At the end of the day, our mutations are still ball pythons just with a different paint job. Being a mutation doesn't make them any more precious than a normal.

2)

The phantom "critics" are not ruining you. At some point you need to figure out what the common denominator is with your troubles on forums. And that would be you. YOU need to take responsibility for your own actions on forums and stop and think "what is it about my posting style that causes others to react this way to me?".

Instead of puffing out your chest and telling people they don't know who they're talking to, and demanding that they treat you with respect, you may want to think about being a little more humble and respectful in your posts as well. No one is impressed with an internet "tough guy". Instead, it has the opposite effect than what you desire. You LOSE respect when you DEMAND respect. Respect is earned, it's not bullied or forced out of people.

Also, no one is really impressed with WHO you know. They're impressed by how you decide to present YOURSELF. That's all. Many of us here are friends with different "big guys", we just don't find it necessary to point it out in a post to prove any points.

Ok I was not trying to impress anyone and I am not trying to act like a tough guy. I have been there done that. This is me. I say what I say but I will try and improve on what I say. If you really think you havent done anything look how you are talking to me. Look how your friend is insulting me. If you believe that you are right about that then you are way wrong. I admit that I need to work on how I come off here but please understand that you have said way to much and altercated a bigger viewing of this thread. So if you believe that you are right than think about it. You are being just as combative as me. Now lets shut it down and maybe one day we can talk eye to eye but I assure you right now you are making me mad with your insults. Like I said I am not a kid, maybe young but not a kid. Our experiances of life are all different. I might know a lot more about other things then you. But it doesnt matter. I said what I said and corrected it and you continued. What does that say on your behalf?

[man-made evolution]

Joe - is it necessary to be antagonistic?

its fine i am not even sweating it. If he wanted to see them he can. It doesnt matter to me. He cant tell me he's ugly at least?

[Royal Morphz]

Tis a very nice Pastel and would be a great addition to anyones collect. As far as your experience or lack there of (I don't have a opinion on this at all, mainly because I don't know you), just sit back and let all that this site is wash over you. I have only kept BP's for 3 years next month, and I can tell you I find new ideas and ways of doing things everyday. I think you will find that this site suits you very well and that with time you will be excepted as much as the next guy. I hope you enjoy this Forum as much as I do every day.

[BuckeyeBalls]

Ok i read the whole thread.

zbyers7 trust me ur arguing with the wrong people. I tried it once and lost. And ended up with 90/100 infraction points. I was in the wrong. But trust me man its not worth it to keep it up. Just move and and drop it.

You dont have to respect them. All u have to do is NOT disrespect them. Simple as that

Now reading this whole thread noticed u said u did not need normals ur pastels are ur normals. If your friends with so many big breeders why are you talking crap about them? :-/

big boas and ball keepers all have normals pretty much. Its a common thing in a collection. And them normals get bred quite a lot for being "normals"

To me a normal is the best thing u can own. Its the base form of the animal we all love.

Its up to you man save ur reputation and save urself the head ache and infraction points if it gets that far.

[man-made evolution]

Ok i read the whole thread.

zbyers7 trust me ur arguing with the wrong people. I tried it once and lost. And ended up with 90/100 infraction points. I was in the wrong. But trust me man its not worth it to keep it up. Just move and and drop it.

You dont have to respect them. All u have to do is NOT disrespect them. Simple as that

Now reading this whole thread noticed u said u did not need normals ur pastels are ur normals. If your friends with so many big breeders why are you talking crap about them? :-/

big boas and ball keepers all have normals pretty much. Its a common thing in a collection. And them normals get bred quite a lot for being "normals"

To me a normal is the best thing u can own. Its the base form of the animal we all love.

Its up to you man save ur reputation and save urself the head ache and infraction points if it gets that far.

Thanks man, but i think I have to clear up the normal thing real quick. The reason why I want to have all pastels instead of normals is a personal choice. Its not about who has the best collection and who doesnt. That is just what i want for me. I have fires and yellowbellys to because i want to clean the morphs up. Thats just something that goes threw my head. Its more personal. I did not mean to offend anyone that has them. Thats just how my brain works on it. If I have clean pastels then I will have clean pastel morphs. If I have clean fires or yellowbellys than my morphs will be cleaner. Its me doing me. A classic example of it. LOL.

[BuckeyeBalls]

Thanks man, but i think I have to clear up the normal thing real quick. The reason why I want to have all pastels instead of normals is a personal choice. Its not about who has the best collection and who doesnt. That is just what i want for me. I have fires and yellowbellys to because i want to clean the morphs up. Thats just something that goes threw my head. Its more personal. I did not mean to offend anyone that has them. Thats just how my brain works on it. If I have clean pastels then I will have clean pastel morphs. If I have clean fires or yellowbellys than my morphs will be cleaner. Its me doing me. A classic example of it. LOL.

Then i must say id like to see a pics of ur collection

Like seeing peoples collections maybe u could take some pics and post them in the pic section =)