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Originally Posted by PurplePython

If a 20 year old came here and said he wants to breed ball pythons in a year before he even owned ONE, then I would have prolly been even more harsh.

Anyways, good luck kid. Sounds like you have life planned out to a T

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

Me personally if hes 15 now. A year he will be 16. Say he keeps his first snake a year before another thats 17. By that time if he wants to breed i dont see why not. Because if his parents will let him then cool. Because lets face it the economy sucks. How many people move out soon as they turn 18 and grad? A lot more stay at home and live there a few more years.

Me personally if hes 17+ and has had a snake for a year or more i see no reason why he cant try his hand at breeding.

I guess he could always spend that $200 he wanted to spend on a snake and go buy some crack and smoke it up.

Id much rather see our youth buying snakes and learning about them then spending it on other things like drugs

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

Me personally if hes 15 now. A year he will be 16. Say he keeps his first snake a year before another thats 17. By that time if he wants to breed i dont see why not. Because if his parents will let him then cool. Because lets face it the economy sucks. How many people move out soon as they turn 18 and grad? A lot more stay at home and live there a few more years.

Me personally if hes 17+ and has had a snake for a year or more i see no reason why he cant try his hand at breeding.

I guess he could always spend that $200 he wanted to spend on a snake and go buy some crack and smoke it up.

Id much rather see our youth buying snakes and learning about them then spending it on other things like drugs

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LOL, I have no idea what you just said here.

So what I'm wondering is, would some of you have been as harsh if he had said "I'm thinking about getting a dog?" How about a bunny? A Garter Snake? Responsibility is best taken with baby steps, and a BP is a lot less work than a dog.

If you don't have your heart set on a BP, I'd look at other snakes before actually getting one. Honestly, there is more personality in my little 4 foot King Snake than there is in any of my BPs (not that I don't love them as much :D), and he's a lot easier to care for. Garters are really cool and come in some amazing varieties, watching them fish for food is amazing, and you can make them awesome setups. As someone who loves displays, it is sometimes disappointing to have these beautiful little snakes in racks, but you have to do what's best for the individual animal. Speaking from having both display snakes and BPs, while both are awesome to have, it is way cool to watch a snake dig and climb and use a big live-planted cage to the fullest.

Not trying to change your mind, just giving you something to think about. :D And everyone who's being mean, let's be a little kinder, shall we? Everyone has to start off somewhere, and where will our beloved animals and the industry be in thirty years if we keep on being rude to newcomers?

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Originally Posted by djansen

LOL, I have no idea what you just said here.

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Saying by the time he gets his bp. and has it for a year he will be around 17-18 which at that time i think it would be fine for him to try his hand at breeding. And that most people dont move out from home soon as they grad.

And him spending money on snakes to breed is better then going out and smoking crack :)

Snakes > Drugs

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

Saying by the time he gets his bp. and has it for a year he will be around 17-18 which at that time i think it would be fine for him to try his hand at breeding. And that most people dont move out from home soon as they grad.

And him spending money on snakes to breed is better then going out and smoking crack :)

Snakes > Drugs

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He's 15 years old. So how will he be 17-18 after a year of owning one?

But seriously dude, the "drug" thing makes no sense. Why would your only 2 options be buying a Ball Python or smoking crack? Please....

Theres other options like "save your money till your entirely sure" or "buy a car". It dosn't have to be buy a snake or smoke crack cocaine does it? wtf

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

He's 15 years old. So how will he be 17-18 after a year of owning one?

But seriously dude, the "drug" thing makes no sense. Why would your only 2 options be buying a Ball Python or smoking crack? Please....

Theres other options like "save your money till your entirely sure" or "buy a car". It dosn't have to be buy a snake or smoke crack cocaine does it? wtf

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ok one say hes 15 i doubt he JUST turned 15. Most likely closer to 16 just a guess tho

So 16 1/2 maybe 16 3/4 close enough.

Why are u so set on the car thing? Maybe he dont want a car? I know many people who DONT want to drive.

At some points id rather have a bunch of snakes rather then a car.

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

ok one say hes 15 i doubt he JUST turned 15. Most likely closer to 16 just a guess tho

So 16 1/2 maybe 16 3/4 close enough.

Why are u so set on the car thing? Maybe he dont want a car? I know many people who DONT want to drive.

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Not to sound like a jerk even more.... but where will you go in life without a car? Seriously.... You can't even have a job if you don't have a car unless you live a few blocks away or have like a train to take in a big city.

So if he's planning on getting a job to "buy a super pastel and killer bees yada yada yada" hows he going to get to work? Have his parents drive him to work everyday till he builds up his multi-thousand dollar collection? Isn't there a thing in life called priorities? Or has this idea of "priorities" completely gone to crap? You guys think I am being mean or whatever but your seriously leading this kid on to be completely dissapointed.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Not to sound like a jerk even more.... but where will you go in life without a car? Seriously.... You can't even have a job if you don't have a car unless you live a few blocks away or have like a train to take in a big city.

So if he's planning on getting a job to "buy a super pastel and killer bees yada yada yada" hows he going to get to work? Have his parents drive him to work everyday till he builds up his multi-thousand dollar collection? Isn't there a thing in life called priorities? Or has this idea of "priorities" completely gone to crap? You guys think I am being mean or whatever but your seriously leading this kid on to be completely dissapointed.

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Really now? You dont NEED a car to go anywhere.

What if he works 2 blocks down the road? Maybe he wants to get some exercise and walk or ride a bike to work. Maybe he dont want to take a car because he doesnt want to be some fat lard butt who is out of shape. Do you take ur car to work? Better question how much exercise do you get? If its not a lot then maybe u should consider walking or riding a bike to work

Heres what i think. Not trying to insult u but i think you didnt get everything as a kid. I think your so negative against him because everything he wants to do as a kid you couldnt. So how about you quit being so negative about stuff. Just because stuff doesnt go your way or you dont think he should do it doesnt mean u need to constantly tell him he cant do something. I think you need to grow up really.

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

Really now? You dont NEED a car to go anywhere.

What if he works 2 blocks down the road? Maybe he wants to get some exercise and walk or ride a bike to work. Maybe he dont want to take a car because he doesnt want to be some fat lard butt who is out of shape. Do you take ur car to work? Better question how much exercise do you get? If its not a lot then maybe u should consider walking or riding a bike to work

Heres what i think. Not trying to insult u but i think you didnt get everything as a kid. I think your so negative against him because everything he wants to do as a kid you couldnt. So how about you quit being so negative about stuff. Just because stuff doesnt go your way or you dont think he should do it doesnt mean u need to constantly tell him he cant do something. I think you need to grow up really.

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Actually as I kid I had plenty. I worked to get everything I wanted.

I never thought about buying tons of snakes and breeding them before I had a way to get to work though.

And really, unless you want to live in the same town your entire life and never leave to even go on a small road trip or vacation, or EVER work anywhere but a small place 2 blocks from your house, then you are going to need to buy a car. What about college? Is he gonna walk to college too? He gonna walk his wife to their honeymoon too?

Priorities > Snakes

Youd rather have more snakes over a car? LOL wow okay bro

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Actually as I kid I had plenty. I worked to get everything I wanted.

I never thought about buying tons of snakes and breeding them before I had a way to get to work though.

And really, unless you want to live in the same town your entire life and never leave to even go on a small road trip or vacation, or EVER work anywhere but a small place 2 blocks from your house, then you are going to need to buy a car. What about college? Is he gonna walk to college too? He gonna walk his wife to their honeymoon too?

Priorities > Snakes

Youd rather have more snakes over a car? LOL wow okay bro

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See heres the thing. People like u rely on something like that which leads u to wondering how your 500 lbs. Im not saying he shouldnt have a car. But he doesnt need one when hes not even 18. Hes gonna be married at 18?

One day u will grow up and realize how much of your life you wasted :please:

And for the record my son is 12 and he owns a ball python (which i help take care of but hes learning)

We also got a boa? Should he own these snakes alone? Not really but me and him take care of them together both a learning exp for us both.

Now when he turns 16 if he wants to get a car he can if he says he wants to not drive but keep snakes thats fine to. He doesnt need a car. Id rather him walk to work anyways our youth need some exercise

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

See heres the thing. People like u rely on something like that which leads u to wondering how your 500 lbs. Im not saying he shouldnt have a car. But he doesnt need one when hes not even 18. Hes gonna be married at 18?

One day u will grow up and realize how much of your life you wasted :please:

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lol 500 pounds? Where did you get this from? If you really wanna see me , go check out the picture of me i posted in the "lets see some faces" thread.

I workout 4 times a week, I watch what I eat, I take care of myself. Just because I put my priorities over snakes dosn't mean I weigh 500 pounds.

And you tell me to grow up? Wow. FAIL

Anyways, imma get goin.

I have to wake up early tomarow to GET IN MY TRUCK and DRIVE TO WORK. Then DRIVE TO COLLEGE. Oh and DRIVE TO PAY MY CELLPHONE BILL. Then hit the weights..

TTYL homefry, maybe ill see ya walking around town

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

lol 500 pounds? Where did you get this from? If you really wanna see me , go check out the picture i posted in the "lets see some faces" thread.

I workout 4 times a week, I watch what I eat, I take care of myself. Just because I put my priorities over snakes dosn't mean I weigh 500 pounds.

And you tell me to grow up? Wow. FAIL

Anyways, imma get goin.

I have to wake up early tomarow to GET IN MY TRUCK and DRIVE TO WORK. Then DRIVE TO COLLEGE. Oh and DRIVE TO PAY MY CELLPHONE BILL. Then hit the weights..

TTYL homefry, maybe ill see ya walking around town

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Your in college? Im surprised. I guess i would expect more from some1 with some college education. Guess you goto college to learn to ruin our youth.

You got any kids? If so :please:

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

If a 20 year old came here and said he wants to breed ball pythons in a year before he even owned ONE, then I would have prolly been even more harsh.

Anyways, good luck kid. Sounds like you have life planned out to a T

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

He's 15 years old. So how will he be 17-18 after a year of owning one?

But seriously dude, the "drug" thing makes no sense. Why would your only 2 options be buying a Ball Python or smoking crack? Please....

Theres other options like "save your money till your entirely sure" or "buy a car". It dosn't have to be buy a snake or smoke crack cocaine does it? wtf

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Not to sound like a jerk even more.... but where will you go in life without a car? Seriously.... You can't even have a job if you don't have a car unless you live a few blocks away or have like a train to take in a big city.

So if he's planning on getting a job to "buy a super pastel and killer bees yada yada yada" hows he going to get to work? Have his parents drive him to work everyday till he builds up his multi-thousand dollar collection? Isn't there a thing in life called priorities? Or has this idea of "priorities" completely gone to crap? You guys think I am being mean or whatever but your seriously leading this kid on to be completely dissapointed.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Actually as I kid I had plenty. I worked to get everything I wanted.

I never thought about buying tons of snakes and breeding them before I had a way to get to work though.

And really, unless you want to live in the same town your entire life and never leave to even go on a small road trip or vacation, or EVER work anywhere but a small place 2 blocks from your house, then you are going to need to buy a car. What about college? Is he gonna walk to college too? He gonna walk his wife to their honeymoon too?

Priorities > Snakes

Youd rather have more snakes over a car? LOL wow okay bro

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Well, Kaorte tried to be nice about it.. but since it obviously didn't work.. here comes Jess, the big mean 'ole cranky lady!

You really have a nasty attitude, and to be honest, I'm getting quite sick of it. I started keeping reptiles when I was 10 years old. Got my first leopard gecko. No big deal. I started keeping snakes over 5 years ago, and now I'm 19, in college, and have a collection of 26 reptiles.

This is my passion. And my mom supports me 100% on it. Would I own snakes over a car? YOU BET I WOULD.
I take the train to school, I don't need a car, I could get a bike if I have to, or take the bus. Also, I don't live in the city, at all. People just don't know how to get off their butts and use their legs and walk. I stay fit and I don't pay for gas, a car, and insurance!

Did I have a job at his age? Nope. My family is poverty stricken but I earned my money working odd jobs for something I can truly enjoy, and now that I'm old enough to have multiple steady jobs, I can really pursue my passion and build a collection.

This is one of the most responsible sounding 15 year old or younger kid that I have ever seen come on to these forums (besides coolio, who just about wins the award!).

He's so responsible, that I'm going to PM him with some personal advice because he doesn't deserve to look through all these posts of negativity. Go be pessimistic somewhere else.

If a 15 yr old is responsible I see no reason why he shouldn't get a bp if his parents are on board with it. I have a friend who's son is 13 and is responsible for quite a bit of the snake care now....and does a great job with them.
I've noticed some pretty negative responses in this thread and don't quite understand why. When someone comes here with a question jumping all over them and calling them "kid" is not a very productive way to respond.....btw your age still ends in the word "teen".
Tiff is younger than the OP and I think she does a wonderful job and shown responsiblity with her animals. It's not like it can't be done.
When I was 15 I was caring for approx 30 herps at a local Nature Society and doing educational things with youth groups there. If you had told me that I couldn't handle one bp due to my age at the time I would have laughed in your face. Some people in that age group are better off waiting to make sure it's not just a passing fad and I think that everyone should have a back up plan just in case it is just that.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

This is my passion. And my mom supports me 100% on it. Would I own snakes over a car? YOU BET I WOULD.
I take the train to school, I don't need a car, I could get a bike if I have to, or take the bus. Also, I don't live in the city, at all. People just don't know how to get off their butts and use their legs and walk. I stay fit and I don't pay for gas, a car, and insurance!

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So many people rely on cars. Me if i need to run to the gas station for something i walk there (unless its gas :rofl:)

Thanks for the kind words guys, I really appreciate it:)

To PurplePython: Like I told you, I've got 9 snakes all well cared for and eat without hesitation. I'm younger than the OP like Walt had stated and I've been keeping snakes since I was 10. I'll also be 15 later this year and will most likely have a lot more snakes than I do right now.

My point is that age does not matter to whether you have the responsibility of owning snakes or not. It really is up to the OP's choice to own a snake and be responsible. I see why you got furious but it was really not needed since all the OP was asking was about how to go about convincing his parents into having a snake of his own so he can get into this enjoyable hobby.

To the OP: I apologize for the disrespectful posts on this thread, so I will give you the answer you were looking for.

If you want to prove to your parents about having a snake of your own, let them now you have full responsibility of caring for it and show that you have that responsibility by doing things around the household and helping them out. Let them know you'll be paying for everything.

Also, if you need suggestions on where to get stuff for cheap like hides or water dishes just ask us and we'll give ya some places to visit. I personally like the Dollar Tree the most for hides & dishes:gj:

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

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So many people rely on cars. Me if i need to run to the gas station for something i walk there (unless its gas :rofl:)

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As soon as it gets warm out, me and my boyfriend bike everywhere feasible within a 5 mile radius.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

lol 500 pounds? Where did you get this from? If you really wanna see me , go check out the picture of me i posted in the "lets see some faces" thread.

I workout 4 times a week, I watch what I eat, I take care of myself. Just because I put my priorities over snakes dosn't mean I weigh 500 pounds.

And you tell me to grow up? Wow. FAIL

Anyways, imma get goin.

I have to wake up early tomarow to GET IN MY TRUCK and DRIVE TO WORK. Then DRIVE TO COLLEGE. Oh and DRIVE TO PAY MY CELLPHONE BILL. Then hit the weights..

TTYL homefry, maybe ill see ya walking around town

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I don't know, your attitude definitely fits some of the guys I know at college who are complete jerks.
But they're also alcoholics, like 90% of college population nowadays. :rolleyes: Which no matter how you put it, makes them unhealthy no matter how much they work out or eat properly. Not saying you're part of that majority, just rambling.

Anyway, your maturity level is lower than what I'd expect from a college student. You get fired up quite easily and are very pessimistic and negative in unnecessary situations.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

As soon as it gets warm out, me and my boyfriend bike everywhere feasible within a 5 mile radius.



I don't know, your attitude definitely fits some of the guys I know at college who are complete jerks.
But they're also alcoholics, like 90% of college population nowadays. :rolleyes: Which no matter how you put it, makes them unhealthy no matter how much they work out or eat properly. Not saying you're part of that majority, just rambling.

Anyway, your maturity level is lower than what I'd expect from a college student. You get fired up quite easily and are very pessimistic and negative in unnecessary situations.

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5 miles? Hmm i could do 3 :) but thats jogging/running dont bike much

and btw at the OP your parents ever seen a bp in person? Maybe them seeing one and how docile they are may help

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

5 miles? Hmm i could do 3 :) but thats jogging/running dont bike much

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If you asked me to run for my life, I wouldn't make it more then 2 blocks.

Now on the other hand, I could bike forever.

Do it up dude! I think you should 100% get this snake! Just chill out for now and stick with one lol. I can remember when I was 8 catching garter snakes in my backyard. Sure I got crap all over me and was tagged over a hundred times but it was awesome! By the time I was ten I had an albino Burm, 2 bps, several tarantulas and a hermit crab. My dad helped me out a lot but it was the most fun ever!
After the divorce all I had was my snakeys and my dad. Then we had to move to a smaller place and I had to give the burm to an educational show (at 14 feet) and was very very upset... But I still had my balls :).
And he can have a job. When I was his ag I had 2 paper routes and worked on afarm. Still bought my first car and had the healthiest snakes around. Bring the parents with you next time you hit up the pet store and show em the balls.
I'm sure once they see how amazing they are they will let yeah get one.

ok so after the 20 mins of reading the thread lol..... Ive only come up with one thing that no body thought about.. College was mentioned but not really in the terms i was thinking of. Your 15 and by all means from your description i think your more than capable of keeping a BP. The only concern i would bring up is dorm living, for my first year of college i lived in a dorm so basically that whole first year was research and wanting a bp really bad. The second year was living in an apartment that didnt allow pets (granted there are ways around that with bps and racks, which i hate to say i took advantage of) Now i live in a house where i can keep my racks and everything i need. So timing wise i researched for a year. And have owned for 2 years and im still just barely trying to breed. Anyway back to the main point of my post. Whos going to take care of your 2-3 bps and asf's if you go off to like a 4 year university and have to live in the dorms. You wont be able to take your rack system and asf's to college with you unless your living at home and going to college. But hey if you have that part figured out i say go for it you have to start somewhere.
sorry for the long post
-Steven

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

I have to wake up early tomarow to GET IN MY TRUCK and DRIVE TO WORK. Then DRIVE TO COLLEGE. Oh and DRIVE TO PAY MY CELLPHONE BILL. Then hit the weights..

TTYL homefry, maybe ill see ya walking around town

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I happen to be a full-time student and happen to work a full-time night job, manage bills, etc. You don't NEED a car to survive in this world. I don't NEED a car. I WALK to work. I WALK to class. Hell, I used to WALK over a mile at 4am to get to work. People rely way too much on cars. So what, he's not saving up for a car. Not everyone needs a car. Hell, I'm spending the next year in Japan, I sure won't have a car there. It costs over $3,000 just to take your driving test.

You can chill and stop bringing this kid down. He seems as though he's prepared himself with research and saved up. Sure, he seems a little ambitious, but good for him. He'll realize in time that things may not work exactly as planned, but that's life. Owning a pet, taking care of another creature, is a great task. It if very maturing and I believe every teenager should be put in the care of another life because of the lessons it teaches them. It takes a lot of heart and responsibility to care for another life. If I had presented my parents with the information he has gathered when I was 15, I probably would have gotten a snake/dog/whatever critter I asked for.

The only thing that I feel he should do is prepare himself for future situations. He's says he's moving, he needs to realize that moving is extraordinarily stressful, not only on you and your family, but on your pets as well. When it comes to college, he also needs to be prepared to find some way to care for the snake if he were to go to a college and be stuck in a dorm. If that means arranging for a way to get home every few days to handle/feed/take care of his snake, then he needs to prepared for that and plan EVERYTHING out. He seems like a very responsible person, and I really think you need to chill out and give him some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism rather than bringing him down.

Honestly I did not read all the posts on here....but of course I have to add my 1 and 1/2 cents. :rolleyes:

If you do your homework and you are really committed to taking care of a ball python AND your parents are on board ...I say go for it. However your parents need to agree to help out should something happen and the snake needs to go to the vet. If your parents are scared...try to find someone that has a bp and let your parents interact with him. I think they will be surprised as to how docile they are.

My son is 9 and he has a BP.....8 months later...we have 5. As a family we all totally fell in love. Now my son does take care of his snake...however of course I have to help out. We make it a family thing. But again.....he is only 9.

I believe some kids are into sports....some are into bad things....and for some...they are into reptiles or other animals. This may be a way to keep kids out of trouble. For me....I am happy that my son is into animals and reptiles as opposed to mixing with the wrong crowd. This later on will hopefully keep his interest in something other than doing naughty things.

As far as breeding.....I personally would say...if you get a baby...then you have a couple of years prior to doing that. Just make sure that if you do...you have the funds to deal with all the things that go wrong.

If you ever want me to have a conversation with your parents in regards to what you have to do...please feel free to pm me. I talk to allot of parents around my area in regards to getting reptiles and what they will need and what it will take. I am a huge advocate of making sure you are ready and have all that you need and that you know what you are getting into.

good way to kill 10 mins, blackcrystal, 100% correct, though PP, did have some wit, but as above, i've been keeping herps for years, and on taking them to ocollage, thank god, my program isn't far.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

Well hold your horses there wee one! :giggle:

Don't just right into breeding. Especially after (possibly) less than a year of owning them. Knowing a lot about them and caring for them daily are very different.

Also keep in mind that any snakes you get will need to be of proper breeding weight. This will not happen in a year if you get a hatchling ball python. A female takes at LEAST two years to be up to breeding weight and some even aren't ready for breeding after two years.

There are many things to consider when breeding. First you need two healthy adult animals. You need an incubator and housing for all of the hatchlings. You need to have a plan for the babies. If you can't sell them, you need to be prepared to care for them for their entire lives.

It is a big responsibility and should not be taken lightly.


Don't rush into things, ball pythons will be here for a while :P

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i agree

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

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I don't know, your attitude definitely fits some of the guys I know at college who are complete jerks.
But they're also alcoholics, like 90% of college population nowadays. :rolleyes: Which no matter how you put it, makes them unhealthy no matter how much they work out or eat properly. Not saying you're part of that majority, just rambling.

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Hey hey not all alcoholics are Jerks some of us are just lazy wise cracking hair metal freaks. :P

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Hey hey not all alcoholics are Jerks some of us are just lazy wise cracking hair metal freaks. :P

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Ahaha, Hair Metal. :D
Well, I'm not going to say I'm unbiased or anything.

I had to wait until I moved out to get a BP and when I did I got him b/c the guy his original owners gave her to wasn't properly taking care of her. He was an adult. She was somewhat dehydrated and in a filthy 10 gallon tank with a few bowel movements and pieces of bad shed. I don't believe that age = responsibility.

As I said I had to wait b/c my mom was afraid of snakes. So I waited. If you can get your parents behind you then start slow, but it is good to see you are thinking ahead.

And as you may see for yourself: Don't judge this site by members like PP b/c he has been "shouted down" by other, more helpful members of which there are a majority. If you score a BP come back and let us know and/or if you ever need advice.

Good luck!!!

I just got two ball pythons and once you get everything figured out it is extremely easy to take care of them. To say that a 15 year old couldn't afford ONE to take care of is pretty dumb he's been saving up money which means he could easily pay for one meal a week. The maturity aspect of this is just so dumb I just went away on vacation for a week and had a friend no reptile experience take care of my 2 leos my bearded and both my ball pythons he did it fine learned everything in about 15 minutes. Came home alive. All I'm saying is a ten year old could very easily maintain one ball python.

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Originally Posted by BOWSER11788

good way to kill 10 mins, blackcrystal, 100% correct, though PP, did have some wit, but as above, i've been keeping herps for years, and on taking them to ocollage, thank god, my program isn't far.

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Ok, I'm sorry, I can't restrain from asking this question (I should, but I can't):rolleyes:

What are you studying in college? I'm just curious to know.

When I was 15 it was my mom with all the reptiles. I would wake up and go to get something to eat and my mom had pinkies thawing out on the counter for her Savana monitor "Joanna" yuck! I wish my mom had bps back then lol. As it is I've got a little normal female here at MY house for her cuz my DAD won't let her have snakes! Lol... She has tons of reps.. Mt. Horn dragons, eyelash gekos, lepord gekos, bearded drogons geez some I can't even remember. Plus she is breeding mice for me cuz MY husband won't let me have mice here lol guess it was a fair trade but I wish my dad would change his mind. Bps are great! Anyhow to the op.... Right on dude! Like many have said on here, get your folks to the store and get em used to bps. They might change thier minds. Good luck with everything and don't forget to give us all an update. I'm sure we would all like to know how it all turns out for you. Glad your part of this forum now... Lots of great people on here that know what they are talkin about... Thats the whole reason I joined this forum. Thanks to everyone with positive feed back. Keep it real

Yeah and everyone told me to lay off this Payson kid because he was "mature".

The thread he just made is a really good example of how mature this kid is.

I love being right....

Paysons just made a thread titled "can michael jackson use the "N" word" and if he should have the right to use the "N" word.

REAL MATURE KID HUH GUYS?

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Yeah and everyone told me to lay off this Payson kid because he was "mature".

The thread he just made is a really good example of how mature this kid is.

I love being right....

Paysons just made a thread titled "can michael jackson use the "N" word" and if he should have the right to use the "N" word.

REAL MATURE KID HUH GUYS?

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:/ I really think you do need to lay off this kid. Now you are just picking on him for no reason.

That thread has nothing to do with his maturity level. if I cared enough about the subject, I would make a thread like that.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Yeah and everyone told me to lay off this Payson kid because he was "mature".

The thread he just made is a really good example of how mature this kid is.

I love being right....

Paysons just made a thread titled "can michael jackson use the "N" word" and if he should have the right to use the "N" word.

REAL MATURE KID HUH GUYS?

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Dude you need to lay off. So he made a stupid thread, does that have anything to do with his ability to care for ball pythons? when I was 14 I was into all kinds of "stupid" stuff, most kids are.
And you showed a nice bit of maturity "I love being right..."
Nice :rolleyes:

When I was 16 lets see what I had... its just a few months older than he is

Adult Blue eyed lucy
Spiders,
Paradox Bee
Lesser pastel
lessers
black pastels
normals
pastels
het for things
and some other odds and ends

All living in RBI racks, with Helixs.

Yet just because of someones age, they cannot afford anything? IDK about you, but ive heard of this word called exceptions, and that ive met 40 year olds that should be no where near a ball python. You cant just go around saying teens should not own pets, because so many of us do, especially when you have NO idea if they can afford things or not.

Oh and also, ive never had a car.

If I were you, I would wait to get a python until you have a steady job. You will then be able to afford to care for him / her properly, and have extra cash set aside in case of an emergency. My parents did not let me get a snake until I showed them that I could be responsible by holding down a job. I think that was a good decision on their part.

My mom would never allow snakes in her house. I'm currently keeping my little sisters' collection with mine until she moves out :D Sometimes there's just no convincing moms. My mom was deathly afraid of snakes. She will come into my snake room, but she's still not found of touching/holding them.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Yeah and everyone told me to lay off this Payson kid because he was "mature".

The thread he just made is a really good example of how mature this kid is.

I love being right....

Paysons just made a thread titled "can michael jackson use the "N" word" and if he should have the right to use the "N" word.

REAL MATURE KID HUH GUYS?

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I in know way was trying to show "Immiturity". I was trying to bring a laugh or two to the community, PP I feel like you dont receave enough attention at home...

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Yeah and everyone told me to lay off this Payson kid because he was "mature".

The thread he just made is a really good example of how mature this kid is.

I love being right....

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Boasting about being "right" doesn't earn you respect. Your tone in this entire thread has been very harsh. We have quite a few younger members here who are very mature and take extremely good care of their animals. And as Walt pointed out - you are ALSO still just a teen yourself. And others would consider you very young and by the tone of your posts immature.

Doesn't feel so good to be judged by your age, does it?

Take a step back from the thread if it gets you THIS riled up, it's honestly not worth it.

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Ok, I'm sorry, I can't restrain from asking this question (I should, but I can't):rolleyes:

What are you studying in college? I'm just curious to know.

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i'm a year and a half into psychology, lol if thats the right spelling, lol hopefuly, since thats my major:P

I am 15 years old, i have a nice collection of ball python morphs and some nice eggs one the way soon. ( females in prelay shed).

I am very mature for my age and have been keeping reptile for 3 years!

i have:
leopard geckos
corn snakes
tortoises
ball pythons ect...

I also have a nice big shed to breed rodents in and i supply all of my local pet shops with live and frozen food, thats what fund the ball python morphs.

I feel that age shouldnt matter too much. If someone is mature enough to care and have the money for snakes ect.. the he should be able to have one.

There are downsides to keeping snakes ( bp ect. ) MONEY, i am unable to go out often, nor buy lots of nice clothes or some other stuff as i have to put money into the reps 24/7.

Thats not something that someone can get used to straight away.

essay over, lol.

thanks for reading :)

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

I have no doubt that there are many 15 year olds (and younger) than can properly care for a ball python or even several. And the OP seems to have a good idea of what they need for their ball python but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter how ready YOU are. If you parents are not ready for the responsibility (and trust me, it will be partly their responsibility too. It is living under their roof, sudden vet bills, electricity, etc), then the answer will be no and you should respect their decision.

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Hahaha, when I was 13 I snuck my first snake into the house (I pulled that trick when one parent says no, and the other says "yes but don't tell your mother it was my idea"). My mom found out about a week before xmas, and didn't talk to me until she unwrapped her presents. My dad, who was all for the reptiles in the house and who was probably feeling guilty that he took me to buy the snake, took me to banana republic so I (he) could buy her a really nice jacket. She told me I could keep the snake, as long as it would be the only one. Turns out she fell in love with them, and by the time I was 16 I had two corns and my mojave.

It was a stupid thing to do though, and I don't ever reccomend sneaking an animal into the house when your parents have already said no. My sister did it with a cockatoo about a year after the snake incident thinking she could get away with it too, and my parents kicked her out (she was 19, though, and had a place to go... and that bird destroys everything).

Moral of the story, if they say yes and you know with 100% certainty that you'll take care of your snake, then go for it. But, if your parents or parent says no, don't do what I did. You might end up living somewhere else like my sister :P

My parents let me have anything as long as it fits in MY room and (if it's a fish tank) doesn't break the floor.

Well I come from a southern baptist family who are a bunch of religious fanatics, My dad killed every snake he saw in the yard, poisonous and non poisonous because he said they were evil, lol. The matter wasnt ever really discussed in the house even though I always wanted one really bad, Once I told them that I wanted a gecko and he told me lizards are just snakes with legs:rofl:. Now he thinks im going to burn in hell forever because I own one.:weirdface

My mom absolutely loves them. My dad.....not so much. However, I think he is starting to warm up to Sherlock. :snake:

Do let get to you. Im 12 and I breed morphs. Just do your research and save some money. I started off with around $250 for a pair of spider and normal with tubs that I made myself using a $5 bin from walmart. Don't stop wanting them I convinced my parents and if you want to breed it's really addicting. Lie to your parents and say your only getting one.
Good luck :)