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  • 06-12-2009, 04:27 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GenePirate View Post
    This is an excellent question. Glad you asked. I don't think the answer is as easy as it seems.



    Sorry, Rebel, didn't mean to kill your Friday. This is a topic that I started working on with Greg Graziani a year or so ago, but I dropped the ball because I got overwhelmed in trying to find contract electron microscopy laboratories that didn't charge a "caramel glow" for a couple of pics. Actually, its not THAT expensive, but still beyond my budget right now.

    You should have posted here if you were looking for some SEM imaging. I have access to one, for free.
  • 06-12-2009, 09:10 PM
    GenePirate
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Wow I need to break out my VPI book and re-read that Skin and Color section...my head-o-phores are going to explode!

    Head-o-phores--that's classic! LOL I won't soon forget that one! :rofl:
  • 06-12-2009, 11:25 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    i need to pick up this VPI book. does it cover pigmentation and how its expressed in the different morphs?
  • 06-12-2009, 11:54 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    My book is in my desk at work, so when I get in on monday I will look through it and see. Nothing in detail, that much I can remember. Its a beautiful book though lots of great pictures and good information. Well worth the $75 bucks IMO.
  • 06-15-2009, 07:38 AM
    asplundii
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tonkatoyman View Post
    That was clear as mud but it does cover the ground:confused: However I'm so glad there are people out there researching our industry. This can only be good for all of us. By the way you already bent my brain:D

    Sorry I bent your brain and was clear as mud, I do tend to lapse into jargon when I am talking with someone who is in my field.

    I can work to keep it at a more layman level if you like.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    I can't quite follow all of what gene pirate and asplundii are talking about, but I will say it sure is refreshing to see a thread that goes a lot deeper than "if I pair my het pied with my pastel, will I get pastel pieds?"

    Thanks guys!

    Always glad to hear that people appreciate the deep stuff even if it is a little jargon filled. Thanks :gj:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GenePirate View Post
    Knew I could count on you. I'll think more about what you said this weekend, too, and get back with you.

    Well, I thought on it and I did not come up with a lot more. Considering all the types of albino (T- and all the different T+) I am leaning more toward my speculation that there is some character of the BP melanin itself that lends to the overall reddish tint on the animals. I do not know how best to articulate my reasoning but the lack of any red cast in the T- albino but the obvious purple/red hue to the various T+ albinos just makes me lean toward that being the most likely explanation.
  • 06-15-2009, 08:20 AM
    Spaniard
    Re: the only dumb question.....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    i need to pick up this VPI book. does it cover pigmentation and how its expressed in the different morphs?

    Hey Lucas,

    I checked my book and they do not go over how the pigmentation is expressed in morphs. They do you a couple pages worth of information on melanophores, xanthophores, and iridophores.
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