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I need a genetic calculator for rtb's lol. I haven't found one. The one for balls is awesome. Made it sooo much easier to learn my morphs that way. I just got back into boas this year. I had a female Suriname and a hypo colombian male that I bred in 99 and 00. Then I got divorced and she took them. I had no clue about genetics at all back then. I was selling them to pet shops 10 for $300 lol.

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

I need a genetic calculator for rtb's lol. I haven't found one. The one for balls is awesome. Made it sooo much easier to learn my morphs that way. I just got back into boas this year. I had a female Suriname and a hypo colombian male that I bred in 99 and 00. Then I got divorced and she took them. I had no clue about genetics at all back then. I was selling them to pet shops 10 for $300 lol.

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I wish there was one for rtb's. I wish we knew back then what we know now about snakes...lol

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

I need a genetic calculator for rtb's lol. I haven't found one. The one for balls is awesome. Made it sooo much easier to learn my morphs that way. I just got back into boas this year. I had a female Suriname and a hypo colombian male that I bred in 99 and 00. Then I got divorced and she took them. I had no clue about genetics at all back then. I was selling them to pet shops 10 for $300 lol.

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Originally Posted by jben

I wish there was one for rtb's. I wish we knew back then what we know now about snakes...lol

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I'm going to third that and wish to high heaven there was a genetic calculator for boas that was as good as the one out there for BPs. Anyone here a computer wiz/programmer and wanna take on the challenge??? :please::please::please:


BTW, you all did a great job explaining genetics for the OP! I saw this question come up while I was still in the hospital and wanted to answer it so badly! But I only had my phone to work with while there and texting a detailed answer on genetics while on a morphine drip was just not happening, lol........... :D

thanks alot guys. i just dont understand why boas are not as popular as balls. is it because the size and there isnt as many morphs?

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Originally Posted by nick654377

thanks alot guys. i just dont understand why boas are not as popular as balls. is it because the size and there isnt as many morphs?

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I think size does have a lot to do with it. Compared to balls, boas get much larger. And they need a larger enclosure too - balls don't mind being cramped which means you can fit more snakes in a given area. But boas like to stretch out and need some interaction/stimulation in their environments so they need a bigger cage relative to their size than balls do.

I think there really are nearly as many morphs in boas as there are in balls, or at least the possibility is there. But boa morphs are still kind of "up and coming" while there are new ball morphs popping out every year. Boas are slower to mature, thus slower to prove out. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I'm going to third that and wish to high heaven there was a genetic calculator for boas that was as good as the one out there for BPs. Anyone here a computer wiz/programmer and wanna take on the challenge??? :please::please::please:


BTW, you all did a great job explaining genetics for the OP! I saw this question come up while I was still in the hospital and wanted to answer it so badly! But I only had my phone to work with while there and texting a detailed answer on genetics while on a morphine drip was just not happening, lol........... :D

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Well someone had to hold the fort down while you slacked off..:rofl: Only joking, hope you're feeling better:)

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I'm going to third that and wish to high heaven there was a genetic calculator for boas that was as good as the one out there for BPs. Anyone here a computer wiz/programmer and wanna take on the challenge??? :please::please::please:


BTW, you all did a great job explaining genetics for the OP! I saw this question come up while I was still in the hospital and wanted to answer it so badly! But I only had my phone to work with while there and texting a detailed answer on genetics while on a morphine drip was just not happening, lol........... :D

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Think im gonna email owal reptiles and see if he would be into the challenge. think i'd actually offer a small compinsation for it.

Thank you! Ive been doing my home work but still feel like i'm way behind the curve. lol I've got John Berrys book designer morphs: ball pythons and boa constrictors vol. 2 that I got when i started into ball morphs. didnt ever look at the boa secton until this year lol. Great book but its a little dated for balls now.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I think there really are nearly as many morphs in boas as there are in balls, or at least the possibility is there. But boa morphs are still kind of "up and coming" while there are new ball morphs popping out every year. Boas are slower to mature, thus slower to prove out. :gj:

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Unless I want to spend a few thousand dollars per animal it'll be a few years of growing up the ingredients that I need. I'm wanting a moonglow aztec. Im cheap so i'm looking at picking up a moonglow female this year and an aztec male next year. So raise them up until maybe 2016 (if i'm lucky and they grow steadily)and produce my hets. hold back female aztec het moonglows from that pairing and repeat the original pairing in 2017 and hold back male aztec het moon glows from that year. and hopefully pair the aztec het moon glows in 2020. If the odds gods favor me i'll get a super aztec super hypo moon glow or two. lol and i'm looking at 6 years to get my sunglow arabesque if my girl dont prove out het for albino. pairing in 2014 Sunglow male x hypo arabesque 66% pos het albino. so if i dont hit the odds or she dont prove out it'll be like 2018 before im likely to pair one of the arabesque 100% het albino females from the 2014 pairing back to dad. I could buy a sunglow arabesque but evenstar bought the best lucking one i've ever seen so if I cant have that one i'm obligated to make my own. lol

yes Kali thats your que to show off pandora :laughing:

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Originally Posted by jben

Well someone had to hold the fort down while you slacked off..:rofl: Only joking, hope you're feeling better:)

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:8::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by H.o.F.R

Unless I want to spend a few thousand dollars per animal it'll be a few years of growing up the ingredients that I need. I'm wanting a moonglow aztec. Im cheap so i'm looking at picking up a moonglow female this year and an aztec male next year. So raise them up until maybe 2016 (if i'm lucky and they grow steadily)and produce my hets. hold back female aztec het moonglows from that pairing and repeat the original pairing in 2017 and hold back male aztec het moon glows from that year. and hopefully pair the aztec het moon glows in 2020. If the odds gods favor me i'll get a super aztec super hypo moon glow or two. lol and i'm looking at 6 years to get my sunglow arabesque if my girl dont prove out het for albino. pairing in 2014 Sunglow male x hypo arabesque 66% pos het albino. so if i dont hit the odds or she dont prove out it'll be like 2018 before im likely to pair one of the arabesque 100% het albino females from the 2014 pairing back to dad. I could buy a sunglow arabesque but evenstar bought the best lucking one i've ever seen so if I cant have that one i'm obligated to make my own. lol

yes Kali thats your que to show off pandora :laughing:

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OMG!! Can't believe I followed all that, lol.... Best of luck in producing that AMAZING Aztec Moonglow!! I have my heart set on a raptor, lol, and considering their price, I'm sure it'll take just as long for me to make super raptors - or longer. (pssst... While I was STILL in the hospital, I took another plunging step toward a moonglow project of my own and purchased a stupendous female Snow - pics to come once she arrives weather permitting....).

AND, cue the photo........ :D:D

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...s/Pandora1.jpg

kali can i have first pick of what you produce with your boas?