i hate the people who live down the street..

I've never hated anyone in my life until recently and it really sucks as I've always gotten along with everyone and never have had enemies. here's the story.. If you care to hear my rant, keep reading..

My fiance and I have been together for a year and a 1/2. Before she and I got together, she was dating someone else. We will call her ex, "Becky"

Well my fiance had no idea Becky was already dating someone at the time. We will call beckys other gf Lori.

(ya following so far? lol)

When my fiance found out becky was with Lori, she ended it. My fiance only found out about lori because lori found out somehow and confronted her.

Lori started following my fiance everywhere, stores, friends, family and even waited out side of our community college so she could scream all kinds of foul words. Lori would call her cell phone (guess she got the number from Beckys cell) even threatened to kill her (my fiance) and her 1 y/o daughter.

Now we have no proof about what I'm going to tell you next but it's only common sense that it was Lori. My fiance parked her car in her driveway one night, just like any other night. The next morning, she went to go to work and her side view mirror was smashed off the side of her car.

So anyway. My fiance got a restraining order against lori, judge heard the voice mails w/ threats for her & her daughters lives and granted it for a year. Lori didn't even show up to the court hearing.

So now moving ahead.. My fiance & her daughter moved in w/ me. We would sit on our lawn swing and just enjoy the evenings out there. One night as we were swinging, her daughter was playing with my 4 y/o nephew who was up visiting me (they live 2 states away). When what did we hear? "You beeping beeeeeep" as Lori drove by.

We ignored it but it really upset me as my nephew is older than my fiances daughter and im sure he understood those were bad words. But like I said I ignored it as you cant rationalize with people like that!

A few days later my fiance was crossing the street, a car stopped to let her go. Or so my fiance thought. All of a sudden, the car gunned it and swerved around her, barely missing her by inches while screaming a nasty word. Yup, you guessed it, it was lori.

We also noticed lori's 15 y/o daughter was always walking down our street always flipping a butterfly knife, stopping right in front of our apartment while giving dirty looks. we wondered why she was always on our street, figuring they had to live somewhere around here.

Then a few days later, we caught lori's daughter in our driveway! Yes... In OUR driveway by my fiances car.

That was it, we had enough and went to the police. The judge this time only granted a no contact order, just for the mother. Ok well fine, we figured that should be enough to keep them away.

Come to find out that day in court Lori moved on our street, 5 houses down! She admitted to the judge she moved in in March. Now the restraining order wasn't even off by then. But apparently this judge didn't care that she violated it, even if it was as she claimed "unknowingly" Which i think is a lie as she was always following her and I. When we left the court room Lori was running her mouth to us as soon as we walked out while becky was telling her to stop and to just get in the car!

My fiances car has had something poured on it in our driveway, whatever it was, was dark in color and ate away the clear coat. And we caught the daughter in our driveway again about a week ago, she was on the passenger side of my fiances car and then took off running when we came out.

We listed my fiances car for sale as we dont drive it, havent in close to a year, we just drive my car. Well as we were moving it, low and behold, there's a flat tire on the passengers side! With what looks like a knife slash. We're getting a used tire tomorrow and the guy we spoke to on the phone said he might be able to tell if it was a knife (so i'll let ya's know)

I've about had it! The daughter comes in our driveway when ever she pleases. Lori swears as she drives by, even when we're not outside. about a week and a 1/2 ago, Lori was in front of my fiance as mt fiance and lori were both headed home at the same time, when they got to a stop sign, lori swung the car door open and went to get out of her car but Becky stopped her.

This is beyond ridiculous!!!!! We cant even bbq or sit on our swings in piece, drive down our own street and we have to always worry about our cars.

I dont know either women, never met them. Just seen them in passing. And my car has had what looked like coffee dumped all over it, spit on the window and there are scratches on it that I know wasn't there b4. (bought my car brand new w/ 4 miles on it, shes my baby lol so even now 3 yrs later i always look it over)

When we call the cops they say well we can talk to them but said that with people like that, talking to them will make it worse. The cops drive by now (once in a while) aiming their spot light at our cars. Our next stop is going back to court when we both have the time to do it!

the daughter is either dumber than a box of rocks as we have 2 GSD's but then again she might know that they are never loose in our yard, so maybe she isn't as dumb as I would like to think.

I've lived here since I was 14 (mom moved out & remarried when i was 18, knowing its hard to find a house that will rent w/ the amount of animals I have, I chose to take over the lease). I am now 30. All my neighbors love me, I've neverrrr had any problems here. We want to move but no one else would rent to me w/ 2 large dogs, a chihuahua, 2 indoor cats, birds, feeder rodents, 2 sugar gliders and of course my snakes & a gecko), trust me I've been looking!!!!!! And we both have crappy credit so we cant buy a home.

I just dont know what to do anymore! these people are very unstable. not so much becky (i kinda respect her as she TRIES to keep Lori in line) but the mother & daughter. I've even thought about installing an under ground fence so when my dogs are outside, they could patrol the area as my male GSD would no doubt keep someone out, he is VERY protective. But for one thing, they could easily poison my dogs and for another, the land lord is the one who mows the lawn & takes care of the trash. My land lord meeting up w/ my male GSD would not be good, as my land lord has no set times or days when he comes.

We need to move, its that simple but no one will rent to us and besides, rents cheap here, my land lord loves me cuz ive been here for so long and heat is included in the rent. Our only hope is that maybe the judge when we go back to court will make lori move. then again, if shes made move, im sure she would flip even more!

This last year & a 1/2 has been such a hard year, w/ a murder/arrest/molestation charges in my fiance's family, it caused such an uproar her own brother came here and tried to punch my fiance in the face through our screen door. I held my male GSD back, he wanted to EAT her brother, barking, snarling and trying to jump thru the screen door but I didn't want to chance him being put to sleep on the account of such scum. (cops told me after i should of let him go as my dog was on his property and in his own home lol) and the constant dealing with this nut case down the street.. Just shoot me! wait, dont there's been enough shooting in this town!

anyway.. there's my rant. sorry for the mini novel, I just needed to vent! I don't know what to do!

No wonder I have a bleeding ulcer lol

That's absolutely terrible. There really are some crazy nutcases in this world. I don't know anything about going through legal stuff - courts and judges and whatnot. But why don't you try to at least set up some sort of intruder alarm? I'm sure you could get one that covers a set perimeter, which you could include the driveway in. That way whenever anyone came into your yard or onto your property it would either call the police or alert you or whatever it is they do these days. :P That's what I would look into.

I think you've done the right thing by keeping your dogs away from them. I agree that if they've stooped as low as they have, then poisoning or otherwise hurting the animals is not below them.

I would try to keep the 1 year-old inside unless you know they're not home or something. It's not right for her to have to hear the bad language -- especially when she doesn't understand what's going on. She only knows that someone is yelling and it upsets you. It's not at all fair to her to have to stay inside, but I would be very careful about when you take her out and where.

I don't know what else to say, and I'm afriad I don't have any practical advice for handling situations like this. But my favorite saying might help: "This too shall pass." Just remember that we all go through bad spells, some worse than others, and no matter what, it's not going to last forever. Continue to do the right thing and be a good person, even when others are not, and things will start to look up. :) Stick to your guns, and keep in touch with family and friends. They can really come in handy at times like these.

Good luck with the courts, and stay safe. :hug:

Have you thought about setting up cameras to catch all of this on tape? Get a lawyer if you don't have one already, preferably one who has experience in harassment cases. That would probably be your best bet at getting rid of these people. Short of becoming really good friends with someone in the mob, anyway. ;)

I'm such a bad person... I would be one of those people that would retaliate. drill a hole in their wall and set 10 to 20 mice loose >_<..That would put them on their toes. LOL I don't know but I wouldnt be able to resist retaliation..... I just wouldn't do any like burning down their house but I'm not above tipping their car.:D I know I'm so bad...:rolleyes:

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Have you thought about setting up cameras to catch all of this on tape? Get a lawyer if you don't have one already, preferably one who has experience in harassment cases. That would probably be your best bet at getting rid of these people. Short of becoming really good friends with someone in the mob, anyway. ;)

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I like that idea too! you can get some really good security cam systems at micro center! I would worry about your doggies they could let them loose.. <_<.... >_> you could get an electrified fence!

video recording is the way to go. Bait a trap for them etc, and gives you peace of mind. Ideally, have the recording be somewhere safe, that way if anyone spots the camera and takes it out at least you have video of that as well.

Hire a lawyer, the violation of the restraining order is SERIOUS and I can't believe the judge just ignored that.

thanks mindibun, I appreciate your heartfelt reply. We have thought about installing cameras outside we just dont have the money right now or even know how to do it. We have a motion light out there, problem is we have no windows on that whole side of the house where the driveway is. Trust me when I say, we watch her daughter (who is now actually 2 1/2) like a hawk outside and we usually have our dogs w/ us just in case. And also trust me when i say i watch my dogs, they're my family & pride n joy.

it's just crazy.. My fiance hasn't even looked at "becky" never mind talk to her in over a year and a 1/2. and lori is still stuck on it!! I will try to continue to ignore it, but it's getting harder. Ive even thought about yelling back at her something on the lines of "well if you were making your gf happy she wouldnt have cheated on you" buttttt i know that would make things sooo much worse, like psycho kinda worse. So I just shut up.. making myself look like a coward.

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Have you thought about setting up cameras to catch all of this on tape? Get a lawyer if you don't have one already, preferably one who has experience in harassment cases. That would probably be your best bet at getting rid of these people. Short of becoming really good friends with someone in the mob, anyway. ;)

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LOL @ becoming good friends with someone in the mob

we have thought of cameras, we just dont have the money for one. thought about those fake ones that have a blinking light too but our luck they would know it was fake.

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I'm such a bad person... I would be one of those people that would retaliate. drill a hole in their wall and set 10 to 20 mice loose >_<..That would put them on their toes. LOL I don't know but I wouldnt be able to resist retaliation..... I just wouldn't do any like burning down their house but I'm not above tipping their car.:D I know I'm so bad...:rolleyes:

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LOL no, i'd pity those poor mice. and as for doing things back to them, i'd actually feel bad if i did. and again, you have no idea how crazy this woman is! the police know her by name and not in a good way.. enough said

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Have you thought about setting up cameras to catch all of this on tape? Get a lawyer if you don't have one already, preferably one who has experience in harassment cases. That would probably be your best bet at getting rid of these people. Short of becoming really good friends with someone in the mob, anyway. ;)

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This is the way to go. It sounds like they're out of control, so it'll be easy to document what they're doing and prosecute.

If you're really having stomach problems, see a doctor. Ulcers are caused by bacteria and are easily cured.

Good luck!

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I like that idea too! you can get some really good security cam systems at micro center! I would worry about your doggies they could let them loose.. <_<.... >_> you could get an electrified fence!

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no they couldnt get near my male GSD, trust me! only way they could get near him is if they shot him or poisoned him! he's not an outside dog, only time hes out is when hes going to the bathroom or when we're playing with him or when we're on our swing.

this is my apollo, this is what someone would see if they messed with me, my fiance, her daughter, our car (if he was in it lol) and if they tried to come inside. i feel completely safe with him around!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...llerapollo.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...tinghiscar.jpg

our other GSD barks like she would kill someone but would never bite, she's an old girl we rescued a few months ago. heres a pic of her taken the day after we brought her home, we put her on a long line as we didn't know if she would run away. shes on the left and all her teeth are broken off :(

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...y/DSC06068.jpg

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video recording is the way to go. Bait a trap for them etc, and gives you peace of mind. Ideally, have the recording be somewhere safe, that way if anyone spots the camera and takes it out at least you have video of that as well.

Hire a lawyer, the violation of the restraining order is SERIOUS and I can't believe the judge just ignored that.

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yup the judge completely ignored it! not one word was said about the date she moved onto my street (and being only 5 houses down on this cramped street is way less than 300 ft)

the only camera I have is my digi cam, ive thought about sitting in my car but her popping up into our driveway is very random. Ive seen some cams on ebay but I dont know the first thing about hooking them up and being able to record what the cam picks up

Go to Radio Shack, and ask the people there about the cameras.
Once you have a camera on the driveway, wait. Get plenty of footage of damage to the cars(all of it could be the daughter instead of lori) and then go to the cops. If the cops do not satisfy you in their response, go get a lawyer, and sue them. Sue them hard. In the course of that, they should move away, to hide from the lawyer stuff that will fall out. Make sure when you go to the cops or a lawyer that you take ALL the paperwork from all previous incendants. You saying "last year she did xxx" doesn't hold as much clout as "Here's the police report.. here's the court's decision.."
Good luck. Ignoring it without responding is better than shouting back etc., mainly because you do NOT want it to escalate with small children in the crossfire, and if you respond, then it's just fighting between two sets of folks(in the eyes of the cops).
Get the cameras(they are not that expensive when you consider how much damage has cost you so far...) and get some recorded evidance.

http://www.x10.com/wireless_cameras/...s_cameras.html - $80 shipped for everything you need minus the recorder, including a color wireless video camera, motion detector and VCR control. I have the older model in my snake room and it works great.

I'd spend my evenings under the car with a tazer and a blackjack, waiting for one of them to come back. With all the complaints you've made, it will be really easy to convince the cops it was self defense. Just sayin.

im so upset right now im shaking!

my mother & fiance were followed tonight by lori. my mother finally witnessed it for herself. My mom and fiance wanted McD's so they went for a late run. so off they went.

lori had completely turned onto the street heading to her house as my fiance was pulling off our street headed to McD's.

next thing she knows, lori is behind her. lori was heading home!

my fiance & mother pulled into mcD's and to the right of mcD's is a gas station, thats where lori parked and stared at them the whole time. she didn't get out of her car at all.

now had this of happened in the day, i wouldnt think too much of it, but its after midnight and she was headed home, she had already made the turn onto our street as my fiance was turning off our street. then she apparently whipped around and caught right up to them. and she did not buy gas or go into the store at all! what was the need to whip around, drive behind my fiance and then park in a gas station right next to where they were if she didnt need anything from the store? (gas station & McDs is so close, they have conjoined driveways)

we just called the police, a lot of help they are! they said "theres probably nothing they can do but will call us back, i have to look into a couple things" he said.

im so sick of this! This (female dog) needs to grow up, put her big girl panties on and get over it!

the cops and judge will wait until something happens to my family before they do something about this.. i feel like im watching a movie!

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http://www.x10.com/wireless_cameras/...s_cameras.html - $80 shipped for everything you need minus the recorder, including a color wireless video camera, motion detector and VCR control. I have the older model in my snake room and it works great.

I'd spend my evenings under the car with a tazer and a blackjack, waiting for one of them to come back. With all the complaints you've made, it will be really easy to convince the cops it was self defense. Just sayin.

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could you possibly PM me w/ instructions on how you hooked yours up? where do I get a recorder? does the camera work in low light? as it sometimes takes a few seconds for the motion light to come on. I have no idea how this stuff works!!! we're going to have to buy a camera, we're tired of living in fear and never having concrete proof the cops or judges need.

im shaking right now! my mother is older, she now lives on her own as when she got divorced a few yrs ago, she moved in the same duplex as us. shes now afraid. hopefully they dont know shes my mom and will leave her alone. but shes still afraid and we're obviously afraid.

i dont know where we will come up with the money for the camera, but we're going to have to find a way!

cops called back, shes talking to them right now, the cop said if the judge grants a restraining order or stalking order, more than likely she wont be made move!

i feel like crying

wow, i cant imagine going through that, I wish you the best of luck, your handling it alot better than i would of. I would of hired someone to beat them sensless by now.

please keep us updated...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...respassers.jpg
ok ive read all these posts and im ready to come down and put said [female dog] in her place. I'd be a good opponent being 6' 4" and 275 pounds lol. But in all serious im very sorry this has happened to you. i would be sitting in my yard with a gilli suit on and when ever she came into the yard id pop her with a BB gun. hehehe. I think your best bet is to take pics when you see her out there or get a video camera. I hope justice is served and your family is safe. -Josh

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wow, i cant imagine going through that, I wish you the best of luck, your handling it alot better than i would of. I would of hired someone to beat them sensless by now.

please keep us updated...

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well trust me, I'm trying my hardest to keep my cool with all of this. I keep telling myself it's NOT worth it. we are planning to go to court, but we want to talk to a lawyer first. the cop even told us to talk to a lawyer. just sucks as we struggle just paying bills, never mind all this extra stuff we will need to pay for.

hopefully my fiances car will sell and we will have money then. but once her car is gone, then my car will be the only target. and again, i dont even know these people! Im just involved by proxy I guess you could say. I've never even said 1 word to lori! and let me tell you............ ive thought about it!!!!!

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http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...respassers.jpg
ok ive read all these posts and im ready to come down and put said [female dog] in her place. I'd be a good opponent being 6' 4" and 275 pounds lol. But in all serious im very sorry this has happened to you. i would be sitting in my yard with a gilli suit on and when ever she came into the yard id pop her with a BB gun. hehehe. I think your best bet is to take pics when you see her out there or get a video camera. I hope justice is served and your family is safe. -Josh

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as for putting her & her daughter in their place, I wish I could just let my dog patrol the yard as I know it would keep them out but that would put him in danger. and again the land lord is always around. and not to mention the 16 y/o daughter is very pregnant. the first time the daughter was caught in our yard this spring, she literally refused to leave, she was taking pics w/ her cell phone of her car!

fiance "what are you doing?"
daughter "taking pictures"
fiance "why?"
daughter "none of your business"
fiance "get outta my driveway!!"
daughter "dont (beeping) talk to me like that!"
fiance "get the (beep) outta MY driveway"
daughter "no, I dont have to do nothing!"
fiance "get out of my (beeping) driveway or im calling the cops"

she left and thats when I happened to pull up, I seen the daughter & her boyfriend running away.

the cops tonight told my fiance that they will give her print ups of the police reports that we've made. I just wish we would of called the cops EVERY time something happened. It would of been better documented w/ dates & times.

I will be on red alert on cabbage night & halloween lemme tell ya!

im telling ya a gilli suit would be a good investment
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...illie_suit.jpg
she'll never even know your there. = P

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im telling ya a gilli suit would be a good investment
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...illie_suit.jpg
she'll never even know your there. = P

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lmfao!!!

ooooooooooooo I know! Sleep with "Becky" again! Thennnnnnnn your fiance can sleep with "Lori". Problem solved. Hahahaha...I got nothin'. Seems like you need to bust out the Crazy-be-gone!!! :rolleyes:

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ooooooooooooo I know! Sleep with "Becky" again! Thennnnnnnn your fiance can sleep with "Lori". Problem solved. Hahahaha...I got nothin'. Seems like you need to bust out the Crazy-be-gone!!! :rolleyes:

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:8: um again? i NEVERRRRR slept with her ew! and no comment on my fiance sleepin w/ "lori"....

How about those motion detecting security lights?

OR, if it were me I'd stay up all night long on the day they do the most stuff and wait for them by a window where the car is. They get close, snap a picture.

Heck, even invest in a pellet gun. Or a paintball gun.

Then again, I'm not exactly a 'peaceful' person. I have little to no patience.

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im telling ya a gilli suit would be a good investment
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...illie_suit.jpg
she'll never even know your there. = P

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BOO-YA!

Hide right behind your swing with that. When you see her, CHASE HER!

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How about those motion detecting security lights?

OR, if it were me I'd stay up all night long on the day they do the most stuff and wait for them by a window where the car is. They get close, snap a picture.
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have motion lights already and cant take a pic from the window as theres no windows on that side at all

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have motion lights already and cant take a pic from the window as theres no windows on that side at all

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Then grab yourself a gilli suit and wait like a ninja. Or a guy in a gilli suit.

Have to give you props for taking that crap for a year and a half. I could not do that without payback.

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could you possibly PM me w/ instructions on how you hooked yours up? where do I get a recorder? does the camera work in low light? as it sometimes takes a few seconds for the motion light to come on. I have no idea how this stuff works!!! we're going to have to buy a camera, we're tired of living in fear and never having concrete proof the cops or judges need.

im shaking right now! my mother is older, she now lives on her own as when she got divorced a few yrs ago, she moved in the same duplex as us. shes now afraid. hopefully they dont know shes my mom and will leave her alone. but shes still afraid and we're obviously afraid.

i dont know where we will come up with the money for the camera, but we're going to have to find a way!

cops called back, shes talking to them right now, the cop said if the judge grants a restraining order or stalking order, more than likely she wont be made move!

i feel like crying

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They come with instructions, but mine is an older model, so it might not work the same. You might be better off upgrading the camera to the night vision one if your motion lights aren't very bright near the cars. You can use any kind of video recorder for these. I've used a VCR, my Hi8 camcorder and my old computer with an analogue video capture card. Your best bet would be to buy a cheap VCR and set it up in your house near the front so it's close enough to the motion detector that the VCR control is within receiving range.

thank you very much jake! I appreciate it!! I will look in the good will for a vcr!!!

so sorry you are going through all this crap. firstly, let me give you props for not retaliating. People like this "Lori" person do not understand reasoning nor do they obey laws, they feel justified that they were wronged and are above the law and if you react back to them they feel vindicated in their own stupid actions.

As for hiring a lawyer I highly recommend it. If you feel that getting a lawyer is costly, here is a link to a website for legal insurance. http://www.prepaidlegal.com/. Basically you pay a monthly fee (depends on the state you live in) and you have lawyers on retainer. Check out the site, give them a call and ask what is the best package, recourse of action for you. It cannot hurt. And as was adviced, each time they harass you, whether verbally or trespass on your property call the cops. Eventually they will get tired of you calling and start to do something. Also, call your local news station. I'm sure all news stations have some kind of "Shame on you" segment. See what public attention might do to stop her. Bring to the publics attention that there has been a restraining order that was violated and ignored by a judge (yes name the judge). I've been through a restraining order against my stepfather and it was not pretty.

Stay safe and avoid this nut case as much as possible. Hopefully it will be resolved before something serious happens. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

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so sorry you are going through all this crap. firstly, let me give you props for not retaliating. People like this "Lori" person do not understand reasoning nor do they obey laws, they feel justified that they were wronged and are above the law and if you react back to them they feel vindicated in their own stupid actions.

As for hiring a lawyer I highly recommend it. If you feel that getting a lawyer is costly, here is a link to a website for legal insurance. http://www.prepaidlegal.com/. Basically you pay a monthly fee (depends on the state you live in) and you have lawyers on retainer. Check out the site, give them a call and ask what is the best package, recourse of action for you. It cannot hurt. And as was adviced, each time they harass you, whether verbally or trespass on your property call the cops. Eventually they will get tired of you calling and start to do something. Also, call your local news station. I'm sure all news stations have some kind of "Shame on you" segment. See what public attention might do to stop her. Bring to the publics attention that there has been a restraining order that was violated and ignored by a judge (yes name the judge). I've been through a restraining order against my stepfather and it was not pretty.

Stay safe and avoid this nut case as much as possible. Hopefully it will be resolved before something serious happens. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

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thank you very much for the info you gave me. we're in the process of lookin around for a lawyer and if we cant afford any we will look into the link you provided.

also, an update, we went to go get a used tire yesterday, the guy looked at it and said the spot i was pointing to might of been from a sharp rock as it wasn't leaking air from there. it was the seam, he said it was from just sitting in the driveway, he re-did the seal and replaces the valve thingie. i feel bad assuming the daughter did it, but after everything thats happened, why wouldn't we jump to that conclusion! it still doesn't explain WHY she was in our driveway on that side of the car and in our driveway YET again!

you don't live in the Thetford area, do you?

I actually had to google that town, as I've never heard of it. Look to be about 2 hours give or take north of me. why do you ask?

I just know of a similar situation in Thetford....wondered if it was the same two girls you were talking about :) I live somewhat near Thetford.

ahhh gotcha.. maybe it's in the water here? LOL

Wow; this sounds insane. Too bad they don't make invisible electric fence! It is creepy that a 15 year old girl is hanging around your house.. doesn't she have a social life? lol.
I think that cameras are a great idea. My husband ordered some out of a catalog for us, and they were very inexpensive; I am pretty sure, around $50. I will ask him later; maybe they have a website. Heh.. I would be inclined to whip out my cell phone and photograph them following behind in the car.. or.. (and this isn't what I recommend) slam on my brakes while they followed. But that's just me :)

well we just got back from the police station. earlier today "lori" acted as though she was going to run into our car with hers as my fiance was sitting at a red light.

the police at least took this one more serious than the incident other night (ill explain in a min) the cop had my fiance fill out a report. The cop said he doesn't know if what she did violated the no contact order or not but he's going to send it to the states attorneys office, he's been to our house over this before. he said he remembered us from over the summer and said he was shocked the states attorney didn't do anything about it then. he said im not dismissing this or downplaying it, Im just talking honestly "what the states attorney will do is look it over and say, can we win this? if they can, they will follow through on it. if not, they dont even bother because they have so many cases and so little time during the week, they take on what they feel is the more important cases."

I called a lawyer, a friend of my aunts. he said he doesn't get involved in these types of cases as they are as he worded it "they are like quicksand.. they never end" (gee thanks for giving me hope LOL)

we havent been to court yet as we want to get all the paperwork from all the times we've called the cops before we go into the court to apply for a reconsideration on a real restraining order. I wish we coulda called the cops EVERY TIME something happened. But they actually get annoyed and sometimes rude on the phone when you call too much so a lot of times we let things go. And as of about a week & a 1/2 ago we started keeping a log of events.

i looked at their myspaces the other day, looks like they might be having problems.. as lori's song on her page is Should've said no taylor swift. And "beckys" is basically about her being able to find another lover.

we wondered why all of a sudden things were starting back up because for a couple months, things were fine, (other than lori shooting dirty looks at us in passing-but thats nothing) so it makes sense to us now...

anyway.. I dont know how long it will take to find out what the states attorney will do about it, once we know I will give another update.

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oh and as for the incident the other night... my fiance & my mom wanted McD's it was 12:30am. so they went for a late night run to McD's but the trailblazer REALLY needed gas (she loves her gas lol). as my fiance was leaving our street, lori was turning onto our street, headed home. next thing my fiance knows, lori was right behind her, all up on her bumper. Lori followed them 1/2 way across our town. As lori saw my fiance was pulling into a gas station, lori went to the gas station right across the street from that one. Parked her car and then stared at them the whole time. After she got gas, they went thru the drive thru, which the driveway for McD's is connected to the gas station lori was in. Lori had herself a nice view to stair at them then, she glared at my mother & fiance the whole time they were at the drive thru. Lori didnt get gas, she didnt go into the store or even get out of her car at all, she was just being a nutty stalker! Called the cops that night, nothing was done. The cops didn't write out a report at all for that one.

A good couple years ago, my mother was getting dirty looks, verbul abuse and threats from a male neighbour, whos in his 30s, a couple houses down from me (the fencing out front isn't very high so you can see start over here). The first couple of times, she told me don't do anything you'll make it worse. So I agreed, didn't do anything.
One day, as my mother and I was getting in the car going to the pet store to buy some dog food and fish flakes. The man was talking out the trash, he saw us, started to verbally shout abuse at us. That moment, I flipped, completly lost it. I got out of the car, started to walk down the street the man saw went inside his house, I went to his front door banging as hard as I could for about 5mins when all he did was pop his head out the front window and told me to "innapropriate language removed by staff".

I went out to his truck and picked up a metal poll, this guy was some sort of builder, I swung the poll smashing his couple year old Land Rover. He instantly came running out of his house. I throw the poll away, pinned him to the wall and told him to stop with his abuse, all he did was spit in my face. So I put him in hospital with a broken nose, couple bruised ribs and a broken right arm. He hasn't even dared to look down towards my house now.

But this got me in alot of trouble. Keep doing what your doing, get a lawyer. Don't retaliate.

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A good couple years ago, my mother was getting dirty looks, verbul abuse and threats from a male neighbour, whos in his 30s, a couple houses down from me (the fencing out front isn't very high so you can see start over here). The first couple of times, she told me don't do anything you'll make it worse. So I agreed, didn't do anything.
One day, as my mother and I was getting in the car going to the pet store to buy some dog food and fish flakes. The man was talking out the trash, he saw us, started to verbally shout abuse at us. That moment, I flipped, completly lost it. I got out of the car, started to walk down the street the man saw went inside his house, I went to his front door banging as hard as I could for about 5mins when all he did was pop his head out the front window and told me to "innapropriate language removed by staff".

I went out to his truck and picked up a metal poll, this guy was some sort of builder, I swung the poll smashing his couple year old Land Rover. He instantly came running out of his house. I throw the poll away, pinned him to the wall and told him to stop with his abuse, all he did was spit in my face. So I put him in hospital with a broken nose, couple bruised ribs and a broken right arm. He hasn't even dared to look down towards my house now.

But this got me in alot of trouble. Keep doing what your doing, get a lawyer. Don't retaliate.

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No way would I retaliate, as I refuse to let the system work against me, it's all too common, where the good guy (or in my case woman) is the one to get in trouble.. but it's not like i haven't thought about it... :devilish::rofl:

You could always have a friend dress up really nice in a suit and visit their front door. Either tell them that if they persist in the unwelcome actions, legal action will be taken, and all of the currantly gathered evidance of Lori's indiscrestions will be given to Beccie.
That'd shake her up good. Or just have the suit imply that any more unwelcome attentions will "deal with, if'n ya know whut I mean."
Or.. just have the suit(or two) go down, park in front of her house, get out and quietly(without going on the property) take LOADS of pictures of the house, car, close up shots of the front pavement, weird stuff. Then write a bunch of stuff on a clipboard, and nod before getting back into the car and leaving, WITHOUT talking to any of them.

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take LOADS of pictures of the house, car, close up shots of the front pavement, weird stuff. Then write a bunch of stuff on a clipboard, and nod before getting back into the car and leaving, WITHOUT talking to any of them.

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roflmao.. omg, that would be funny as heck!! In my head I was thinking what fun i'd have with the pics after LOL

good ideas but im not going to stoke the fire unless i HAVE to

I would egg their car!! lol
It would probably just make things worse though.

Taking it to court, getting security cams, and an alarm system sounds the best solution.

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Or.. just have the suit(or two) go down, park in front of her house, get out and quietly(without going on the property) take LOADS of pictures of the house, car, close up shots of the front pavement, weird stuff. Then write a bunch of stuff on a clipboard, and nod before getting back into the car and leaving, WITHOUT talking to any of them.

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I just LMAO! Great idea!

those two are insane...I'm sorry you have to go through that. Cameras are a great idea too. I can't imagine how crappy that feels to have a lawyer say "it's like quicksand". I don't know if you can, but maybe ask a lawyer if you can sue them for money for harrasmet and property damage? That might scare them enough, or maybe jeopardize how much money they have to spend on gas money to follow you and rent or mortgage payment to live near you. That might be really obscure, but it might scare them to stop.
Well..in a non-aggressive manner, I'd carry mace or pepper spray on you and with your family....next time they are in your driveway or what not or on your property giving you crap, spray them. It would be a good way to not get physical, but to make them get off your property. However, I understand if you're scared that might escalate things. or you could get an invisible fence for your dogs (if that works wiith GSD). I bet that would scare the crap out of them...but as the flip side to that, it could put your dogs in danger too if they decide to hurt them. I wish i could help...

Has there been any progress on this? You made any headway?

And just a note - I'm sure you already know - but there have been a lot of cases of dogs being put down for attacking people - even when it was on the owner's property. I worked at a pound and I saw "aggressive" dogs put down that had bitten someone on their own property because despite that the courts thought the dog was a danger to others. I'd keep your GSDs out of it.

As for the progress.. we havent heard back from the cops yet to see if the states attorney is going to do anything about that last incident. but things have been quiet over here since then.

butttttt whats really crappy is, "becky" is now working at one of the only 2 gas stations in town thats 24 hrs, so that store is now off limits to us.. so no going to that one late at night looking for cigs, coffee, gas or soda. :irkd: I liked it when she worked in the next town over, I neverrr needed to go to that store lol

and "lori" is working at our local 24 hr grocery store. needless to say my fiance wont be shopping at that store alone any time soon. But she can go fly a kite cuz no way are we going to completely avoid that store, they have the best sales lol always having buy 1 get 1 and buy 1 get 2 frees. besides theres cameras all over inside and outside :D

still havent gotten any cameras, we're trying to sell a car we never drive but no one wants it lol once its sold, we will invest in some tho!

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I didn't notice anyone had posted on this thread until just now, sorry for the delay

Just think of it as incentive for giving up cigs and caffeine :D

That stuff really puts a dent in the wallet too.

Good to hear there haven't been more incidents, hope it continues to go well.

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those two are insane...I'm sorry you have to go through that. Cameras are a great idea too. I can't imagine how crappy that feels to have a lawyer say "it's like quicksand". I don't know if you can, but maybe ask a lawyer if you can sue them for money for harrasmet and property damage? That might scare them enough, or maybe jeopardize how much money they have to spend on gas money to follow you and rent or mortgage payment to live near you. That might be really obscure, but it might scare them to stop.
Well..in a non-aggressive manner, I'd carry mace or pepper spray on you and with your family....next time they are in your driveway or what not or on your property giving you crap, spray them. It would be a good way to not get physical, but to make them get off your property. However, I understand if you're scared that might escalate things. or you could get an invisible fence for your dogs (if that works wiith GSD). I bet that would scare the crap out of them...but as the flip side to that, it could put your dogs in danger too if they decide to hurt them. I wish i could help...

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I think that it you sprayed someone with pepper spray for trespassing you would likely end up in jail. I wouldn't do that.

something like that would be a last resort. we have refrained from any type of violence and any communication this whole time and will continue to do so. so its all good.