i know it off track. the point we were hoping to make is why is it that if you know i choose to feed live animals to my snake can i not buy a mouse for a breeder. To say its not health to feed live rodents that were typically breed at facilities that also freeze rodents to sell is in my opinion not necessarily true. feeding frozen rodents should be more about the safety of your snake than the possiblity of "gunk" on the live rodent. I know theres no "gunk" on my rodents in my house. but not everyone has that ability. theres also the fact that most balls tend to prefer live over frozen. There arent many that will go for frozen, most with big collections know this. i was avoiding this thread do to the fact it got off topic. But i am still trying to get it back on the general point. This wasn't about bashing petsmart. Just trying to understand the policy of not allowing me to buy rodents for any reason because i own snakes and i might feed them.