Sweet hybrid hook up

[Lance Portal Reptile]

thats an edit from office space right.... "have you seen my stapler"..lol, luv that movie, but not the killing of the horse....

[Darkice]

Im all for Hybrids. Its something new and different you would never find in the wild. If you are able to produce hatchlings let me know. I want some.

[redpython]

From my understanding:

hybrid = two species/subspecies that do not naturally overlap in the wild. so if you crossed a california kingsnake w/ a black king, that would be a hybrid.

intergrade = two species/subspecies that overlap naturally in the wild.
some of the carpet pythons, here in ky, red milk x eastern milk

[Wh00h0069]

Would like to thank everyone for their like or dislike of them, but i did know that i would get crap for this by people that dont like hybrids. I have been dealing with this for years with my hybrid gecko projects, and everytime its like a war between the purest (not trying to stereotype) vs. people that are ok with it. I do feel that it is a VERY touchy subject and with dishonest breeders, they can and might be trying this and not being truthful about what the reptile. Its sad because it gives people like me and business that breed them a bad name. People that know me see why am into them, its not for money or greed or to "mudd up the bloodlines", it because these hybrids have some of the greatest colors, patterns and overall from what i have seen, take the best from both sides and creates something better...Like my crested X chahoua hybrid, better temperment than a chahoua and way more colorful then any crested. lp

Hi Lance, I am not against hybrids; although, I would never breed or keep them myself. The main question is what are you going to do with the offspring? Are you going to keep them all? If so, then more power to you. If you are planning on selling them, then I agree with all of the others who disagree with you. You are muddying the bloodlines, which could affect other breeders unbeknownst to them.

[Lucas339]

Hi Lance, I am not against hybrids; although, I would never breed or keep them myself. The main question is what are you going to do with the offspring? Are you going to keep them all? If so, then more power to you. If you are planning on selling them, then I agree with all of the others who disagree with you. You are muddying the bloodlines, which could affect other breeders unbeknownst to them.

well if all goes well i might be able to pick one up off of him.

you guys also need to keep in mind that the chances of these guys actually hatching is also rare. the guy who made the first carpballs had 20 eggs and only 7 hatched. its not like lance is going to have 30 hybrids runnin around.

[Wh00h0069]

its not like lance is going to have 30 hybrids runnin around.

Lets hope not.

[Jerhart]

well if all goes well i might be able to pick one up off of him.

you guys also need to keep in mind that the chances of these guys actually hatching is also rare. the guy who made the first carpballs had 20 eggs and only 7 hatched. its not like lance is going to have 30 hybrids runnin around.

....7 is too many hybrids for me.

[Jerhart]

Going back thru this thread and looking at your website Lance, the big issue here really is about record keeping, and being accurate, consistant, and up to date with your records.

For instance….on your website you are advertising this, “Ball Python X Carpet Python Project (Carballs)”
http://lancehybrids.webs.com/snakes.htm

…now from my understanding, this cross will result is ‘Carpalls,’ not ‘Carballs.’ This may not be an issue to you, but I see this causing some confusion down the road to those who are not familiar with this cross. I could easily see your animals being sold by another individual down the road as ‘Car Balls.’ And the name thing is possible…for example ‘Piebald’ and ‘Pied Ball’.

Just an example of how crosses can mud-up the gene pool.

Just do us a favor and be sure your records on these animals are accurate.

Good Luck.

[azpythons]

Lets hope not.

if it was 30 of those sweet as pie burm balls, i wouldnt have a prob bob

never seen a carball....i mean carpall tunnell ball

[Lance Portal Reptile]

Going back thru this thread and looking at your website Lance, the big issue here really is about record keeping, and being accurate, consistant, and up to date with your records.

For instance….on your website you are advertising this, “Ball Python X Carpet Python Project (Carballs)”
http://lancehybrids.webs.com/snakes.htm

…now from my understanding, this cross will result is ‘Carpalls,’ not ‘Carballs.’ This may not be an issue to you, but I see this causing some confusion down the road to those who are not familiar with this cross. I could easily see your animals being sold by another individual down the road as ‘Car Balls.’ And the name thing is possible…for example ‘Piebald’ and ‘Pied Ball’.

Just an example of how crosses can mud-up the gene pool.

Just do us a favor and be sure your records on these animals are accurate.

Good Luck.

because this cross has not been done with a jungle, i didnt want people to think it was a IJ X ball cross, which is a carpall, thats way i put alil bit different name...its still in the works on what the name of them will be