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    Re: het breeding question

    All I was saying is that 50% Possible DOUBLE Hets would insinuate that you had a 50% chance to have a DOUBLE Het snake, which is not the case, it's actually only a 25% chance that you have a DOUBLE Het. It's just a matter of how you phrase it, and 50% Chance of a Double Het seems to insinuate that 50% of the snakes will be (statistically) a Double Het.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by reptile ni View Post
    thanks guys i knew about the double het side of things but was just wondering if there was a chance of anything visual as ive never paired to different hets before

    thanks ady
    You should just do it, and then breed the offspring together in a couple years. You may get a Snow, or at least an Axanthic or Albino. Good stuff no matter what.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    All I was saying is that 50% Possible DOUBLE Hets would insinuate that you had a 50% chance to have a DOUBLE Het snake, which is not the case, it's actually only a 25% chance that you have a DOUBLE Het. It's just a matter of how you phrase it, and 50% Chance of a Double Het seems to insinuate that 50% of the snakes will be (statistically) a Double Het.
    No ALL of the offspring will be double hets .Its not how you phrase it its how the genetics are passed on
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    Re: het breeding question

    Um, no only 25% of the offspring will be double het. 100% Het x 100% Het = 25% Double Het, 25% Het 1, 25% Het 2, 25% Normal. THAT is how genetics works (adding in percentages).
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    You should just do it, and then breed the offspring together in a couple years. You may get a Snow, or at least an Axanthic or Albino. Good stuff no matter what.
    Agreed, just do it and then grow those babies up and produce some visuals.

    Also, to correct one thing with the quote above, You will not get a Snow or Axanthic.... The pairing is 100% het Albino and 100% het ghost... No Axanthic involved so no possibility of Snow or Axanthic.

    Quote Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    No ALL of the offspring will be double hets .Its not how you phrase it its how the genetics are passed on
    No, not all offspring will be double hets!

    All offspring will be both 50% het Albino and 50% het Ghost.

    So if the odds play out 25% of the offspring will be true double hets.

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    Re: het breeding question

    You are quibbling with the terminology, and it makes it more confusing for people to understand.

    They will all be possible hets. They will all be possibly double hets. How much of a possibility is there? 50% for each trait!

    THEREFORE:

    50% double hets for X and Y.


    Now I understand where you are coming from with the percentages, but you are making it much more complicated with percentages than is necessary, IMO.

    Yes, the actual chance for them to be double het is 25%
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    You are quibbling with the terminology, and it makes it more confusing for people to understand.

    They will all be possible hets. They will all be possibly double hets. How much of a possibility is there? 50% for each trait!

    THEREFORE:

    50% double hets for X and Y.
    Good reason to NEVER buy a 50% Possible Double Het, since most people seem more than willing to phrase it in a way that sounds a lot better than it is.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Good reason to NEVER buy a 50% Possible Double Het, since most people seem more than willing to phrase it in a way that sounds a lot better than it is.
    Well...

    I don't think that is really the case. If you have a general understanding of genetics, you should know its a crap shoot anyway...
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    Re: het breeding question

    Very true, but the moment someone says DOUBLE Het it signifies a kind of unification between the two traits. A kind of "either both or nothing." 50% Het for A and B would be fine, however the way it has since been presented insinuates a deeper link between the two.
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    Re: het breeding question

    the probability of the combinations of 2 different events is simply to calculate with the product of singular probability of every event.

    in that case
    het Ghost for a "non het ghost" produce 50% het ghost and 50% "non het ghost"(normal)
    het albino for a"non het albino" produce 50% het albino and 50% "non het albino"(normal).

    50%(probability to be het ghost) x 50%(probability to be het albino)=>25%(1/2x1/2=1/4=0,25...should be clear) and this is the probability to be a double het(het albino and het ghost)

    50%(probability to be het ghost) x 50% (probability to be "non het albino")=>25% het ghost

    50%(probability to be "non het ghost") x 50%(probability to be het albino)=>25% het albino

    50%(probability to be "non het ghost")x 50%(probability to be "non het albino")=>25% normal.

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