Feeding problem

[littleindiangirl]

I don't see what the big issue is. If you shake a mouse it doesn't get agressive it gets disoriented hence making it an easy kill. I don't know what kind of mice you feed to your snakes, but i've done this many times and its worked every time. I've never had a mouse bite my snake. Maybe if you do this to a rat or something that may be different, but we were talking about mice here. So before you go critising someones advice please read the entire thread.

Thanks,
Kevin

Being inhumane to an animal, whether feeder mouse or puppy, is still inhumane.
I'm a big advocate for humane treatment of all animals, so before you try and comment back something snide, I'll let you know I'm in for the long haul, so roll up your sleeves.




OP, please do not shake or try and disorient your prey before feeding. Give your girl a week to rest, and offer the mouse again.

If you don't want her to get bit, offer a prekilled mouse (you can buy frozen and thaw them, or CO2 the mouse)

[Oxylepy]

Personally I think suffocating your rodents through CO2 is actually fairly cruel.

Whether or not something is considered "humane" is entirely based on "does it look gross or not?" and has nothing at all to do with what truly creates the least amount of harm. Cutting somethings head off isn't considered humane, however it is the absolute best way of killing something since it is instantaneous and painless. However shoving an animal in a box that is flooded with Carbon Dioxide where they will slowly die of suffocation, unable to breed and in distress.

Not saying I wouldn't do that, or that people shouldn't or that I wouldn't purchase animals prekilled in that way. But the fact that it's considered humane while severing the spine with an axe blade isn't makes one re-think the definition of humane. It's like how injecting a human with poison or sticking them in a room full of Chlorine gas are both considered humane ways of killing them, and the guillotine and hanging are not.

[Bruce Whitehead]

There are means by which humane and inhumane are quantified, and it not simply by what looks one way or another. I do not gas my rodents because I *think* it is humane. I gas them based on the consensus that has been reached through facts.

And hanging? Probably not the best example as it is not a sure fire way to die...

And I have read that decapîtation is classified as a humane way to end the suffering of certain animals... just for the record.

But yeah... back on track...

[littleindiangirl]

Personally I think suffocating your rodents through CO2 is actually fairly cruel.

Whether or not something is considered "humane" is entirely based on "does it look gross or not?" and has nothing at all to do with what truly creates the least amount of harm. Cutting somethings head off isn't considered humane, however it is the absolute best way of killing something since it is instantaneous and painless. However shoving an animal in a box that is flooded with Carbon Dioxide where they will slowly die of suffocation, unable to breed and in distress.

Not saying I wouldn't do that, or that people shouldn't or that I wouldn't purchase animals prekilled in that way. But the fact that it's considered humane while severing the spine with an axe blade isn't makes one re-think the definition of humane. It's like how injecting a human with poison or sticking them in a room full of Chlorine gas are both considered humane ways of killing them, and the guillotine and hanging are not.

What? LOL, since when is sticking people in chlorine gas filled room considered humane?? When the Nazi's were doing it? I don't believe the Nazi's did it because it was "humane".

Sounds like you really don't understand how seriously euthanasia is taken by veterinary professionals.

Decapitation is considered humane. The ARVMA has outlined the standards for humane euthanasia, and anything done physically like decap or cervial dislocation is done by a person who has been trained specifically for this procedure to make sure it is done in a humane manner.

http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_we...euthanasia.pdf

[MattA*]

heyy guys well i fed my snake today i got a mouse last night and i fed her a few min ago..it went really well the mouse was at my house over night and it did seem to help she was a lot calmer and there was no problems this time..
thank you all for your help
and as to the ball in mouse thing id have to agree with the guys...it dose seem a lil weird to put it in a ball or shake it up...it just gives it one more reason to bite back..

[Bruce Whitehead]

Congrats on the feed.

Nothing better than a successful feed. Except maybe a poop, shed, lock, or eggs.

Bruce

[MattA*]

hahah
yes all those are good to lol

[JeffJ]

i just feed my mice a piece of cheese so they are full before i offer them to the snake. is that wrong? never had a bite yet. i just drop it in and let nature take its course

[Bruce Whitehead]

They do not bite because they are hungry, they bite if they are threatened or agitated.

But yes, keeping your rodent well fed and hydrated is a good way to keep them calm.

B

[MattA*]

yea if i ever leave mice over night or maybe a lil longer i always leave food and water in their... the calmer the mouse the less of a chance of it biting back