feed in tank or another tank/tub?

[missi182]

You own two snakes, b/c your two don't ball up does not mean that is the universal rule.

Just as my snakes behavior is minuscule in the overall inherited knowledge of this site.

[catboulet]

I guess you've never been on a reptile excursion, there are many many snakes that can be easily picked up and handled without being bit. But that is not MY point (sorry I should not have said OUR) in the end it is health and nature that prevail in this matter IMO.

I can see what your trying to communicate, but through experience and personal knowledge, your points just don't make sense to me. Like I said, there is nothing wrong with that. We can civilly agree to disagree.

oh ya,reptile excursions where you pickup the snake without being cautious, and put it on your neck because you are as confident as you bp it wont be aggressive

no one see's what i mean so ill just end it here because we obviously wont come to term in our opinions

[missi182]

oh ya,reptile excursions where you pickup the snake without being cautious, and put it on your neck because you are as confident as you bp it wont be aggressive

no one see's what i mean so ill just end it here because we obviously wont come to term in our opinions

Read the following posts.......

I went to college for natural resources and wild life management, and YES we do go out on scheduled excursions to examine species and record information on different reptiles (yes including snakes!) and I would have to be an idiot to put one around my neck. can we grow up a bit here?

[Spaniard]

Just as my snakes behavior is minuscule in the overall inherited knowledge of this site.

Exactly!

[missi182]

no one see's what i mean so ill just end it here because we obviously wont come to term in our opinions

Ive already pointed that out. But you keep going. Go ahead, whatever keeps you happy.

[TMoore]

my point? jeez obviously i got trouble making it clear.. YES bp bite in captivity.. but you are talking about exceptions, because they are 1 of the most docile snake.. but if you believe they are as docile in the wild, then IMHO you are wrong~

Do I think that balls kept in captivity and handled frequently may be less likely to bite than ones found in the wild, experiencing a human for the first time, yes.

This however does not mean a ball in captivity is domesticated.

They will still bite when they feel threatened or sense food, just like balls in the wild.

[catboulet]

This however does not mean a ball in captivity is domesticated.

definition of domesticated

Process of hereditary reorganization of wild animals and plants into forms more accommodating to the interests of people. In its strictest sense, it refers to the initial stage of human mastery of wild animals and plants. The fundamental distinction of domesticated animals and plants from their wild ancestors is that they are created by human labour to meet specific requirements or whims and are adapted to the conditions of continuous care people maintain for them.

if you go find out for yourself (internet) about snakes domestication you will see that they are

[missi182]

definition of domesticated

Process of hereditary reorganization of wild animals and plants into forms more accommodating to the interests of people. In its strictest sense, it refers to the initial stage of human mastery of wild animals and plants. The fundamental distinction of domesticated animals and plants from their wild ancestors is that they are created by human labour to meet specific requirements or whims and are adapted to the conditions of continuous care people maintain for them.

if you go find out for yourself (internet) about snakes domestication you will see that they are

Definitions without sources are not a great way to support ones views. I know what domestication means but I don't see how its still relevant.

[catboulet]

This however does not mean a ball in captivity is domesticated.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=WGDY...esult#PPA57,M1

[TMoore]

definition of domesticated

Process of hereditary reorganization of wild animals and plants into forms more accommodating to the interests of people. In its strictest sense, it refers to the initial stage of human mastery of wild animals and plants. The fundamental distinction of domesticated animals and plants from their wild ancestors is that they are created by human labour to meet specific requirements or whims and are adapted to the conditions of continuous care people maintain for them.

if you go find out for yourself (internet) about snakes domestication you will see that they are

So according to you and the source you cited, ball pythons are domesticated because they are selectively bred in captivity to make new morphs.

So if I were to breed some wolfs in an attempt to get an albino wolf would their offspring be domesticated? According to you, yes.

I however find that an albino wolf is far different from a beagle, which I view as a domesticated animal.