Intresting global warming story

[Melicious]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...58/ai_82554146

This is interesting too. http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/methane.htm

[nixer]

Completely different. The advanced notice of the possibility of the world ending tomorrow does not give Congress cause to potentially destroy an American Industry. Amen.

Might be time to take a deep breath and check if intelligence is getting overrun by emotion...

they have destroyed industry for less

[wolfy-hound]

The government is not known for warning that they are looking into taxing something and then saying "Aww.. no. We decided not to tax it after all."
There's also a way to harness cow poo and make your own energy. Green energy if you're already keeping cows. Then since you're burning the methane, you don't "emit" methane as a industry, and you also get free power.

[AaronP]

I heard Monday on National Public Radio that the German Government has officially asked Germans to reduce their consumption of meat. They said that the average German's diet consists of 39% meat and the average Italian diet consists of 24% meat. The keeping of livestock to feed the Germans was creating too much methane gas in the form of farts. They wanted the German people to emulate the eating habits of the Italians. I had to wonder if I was listening to a Saturday Night Live skit or something but it was real.

That's too funny. Especially cause you know those politicians aren't going to.

[DutchHerp]

Does it matter what governments like Germany's are doing? At least they're doing something to try to reduce greenhouse gas emissions!

Make fun of it all you want, these people are trying to make a change and everyone should be doing it. Even if you don't believe in global warming; it definitely won't do earth any harm.

Is it really that hard to go to the grocery every (other) week instead of whenever you need to? Or to buy nalgene or camelbak water bottles instead of the entire pallets of plastic bottles?

I think we should do as much as possible to reduce global warming, as we all love herps here and frogs are going extinct and endangered all over the world.

Thanks for reading,

[janeothejungle]

wow look at all the graphs i linked to then come back with it.

Wow. I love that you assumed I was after you. Head swell much? What 'field' is that you are in again??


~Kat

[DutchHerp]

Wow. I love that you assumed I was after you. Head swell much? What 'field' is that you are in again??


~Kat

What does that have anything to do with this topic?

[Lucas339]

Wow. I love that you assumed I was after you. Head swell much? What 'field' is that you are in again??


~Kat

i am a marine biologist that is currently working on a study that is looking at the human impacts on the indian river lagoon system in florida. this study takes all types of samples into consideration including temperature. there is a wealth of historical data showing that lagonal temps are on the rise and that algeas are inceasing in number choking out sea grasses which are important nurisery habitats for many comerical speices. we are looking at sea grass populations to analyize their densities, what grows on them and around them, and what animals are assoicated with the sea grass in terms of reducing epiphyte load.

i worked at another lab for the past 2.5 years doing similar work only looking at power plant effects on the surround habitats. i worked at 3 different plants as part of EPA mandated studies to analyize the effects of the thermal plume generated by the plant, as well as, the die off associated with the intake of water from the surrounding water ways for cooling the plant. i also was part of a study that looked at possible effects of taking water from the manatee, braden, and peace rivers for human comsumption. this project was to show the habitat shift associated with the taking of the fresh water. i also was part of a study that showed the northward migration of the upside jellyfish (Cassiopeia) in florida. during my time at this lab (mote marine if you must know...they still have me on their site as a staff member) i helped identify a juvenile florida stony lobster which are also possibly making a northward migration. eveidence is poor on this one but it may be happening.

now that you have seen my resume, what do you do again?

[anatess]

Does it matter what governments like Germany's are doing? At least they're doing something to try to reduce greenhouse gas emissions!

Make fun of it all you want, these people are trying to make a change and everyone should be doing it. Even if you don't believe in global warming; it definitely won't do earth any harm.

Is it really that hard to go to the grocery every (other) week instead of whenever you need to? Or to buy nalgene or camelbak water bottles instead of the entire pallets of plastic bottles?

I think we should do as much as possible to reduce global warming, as we all love herps here and frogs are going extinct and endangered all over the world.

Thanks for reading,

Hi Mat, we are not making fun of Germany. We are trying to put forth an example out there of a government that we try not to have in the US. Yes, Germany is trying to live green or practice conservation or what have you... but you shouldn't have a government that IMPOSES it on the population. We can achieve the same results with education while keeping the freedom of the people to choose for themselves how to apply these principles.

See, the problem is, if you give government that kind of mandate, they can then use that same mandate to put themselves in a position of more power until finally, the population become devoid of independent thought. It is already happening in America. Britain is already deep in it and you know how they are struggling now. A good illustration of this is the lightbulb. It is considered bad for the environment for some reason that I haven't figured out the truth of why quite yet. They want it replaced by flourescent. But another faction out there is saying flourescent has its own problems that causes health issues as well... So, if I'm a FREE independent citizen, I HAVE THE LUXURY of researching all these issues of the incandescent versus flourescent lightbulb and then deciding for myself what I feel is the appropriate choice for my dwelling. But, if you have a government that mandates, YOU MUST USE FLOURESCENT, then that freedom of choice is removed from my hands. Now, we all know government - of any shape, size, or form - is never perfect and is always open to corruption. Let's say, Big-Shot Neon Lightbulb Company, is owned by this guy who is buddies with some people in Congress. So then, Big-Shot forms a lobby, puts enough big money to pay somebody's re-election campaign, and somehow manages to extract promises from enough people in Congress to support his Neon lightbulb. All of a sudden, Congressman Smith launches a campaign for Neon lightbulbs, all the people (now devoid of independent thought) jumps up and down over P. Diddy's new Neon rap song, and BAMM. New Law: YOU MUST USE NEON.

That, Matt, is the danger of having a government tell me when I can go to the grocery. Now, if YOU, as a concerned citizen, would encourage me to go to the grocery less often, or avoid buying truckloads of plastic bottles, then by all means, let's talk and educate me on the benefits. Just keep the government out of it.

[dr del]

Hi,

I'd be offended by that if I was capable of independant thought.

Just an FYI;

The "problem" associated with standard incandecent lightbulbs is their inefficiency when compared to the light output and energy requirements of flourecents.

The "problems" associated with flourecents are the fact they contain hazardous materials and connot legally be disposed of through our current household refuse collection service ( which nobody told us) , emit the wrong kind of light thus causing partially sighted people more problems than incandecents (which nobody apparently knew ) and cost over five times as much to purchase (which nobody earning £60,000+ as a politician gives a damn about ).

We can still buy incandecents in the stores though some are beginning to phase out 100 watt bulbs. There is a large amount of discussion and investigation going on about the issue so it is by no means clear that the proposed ban will ever take place. I tend to think it would be a serious mistake if it were to take place.

The problems with the money and elections isn't really as big an issue over here as all election funding is heavily scruitinized and there is a system of parity imposed to prevent the budgets giving too much of an advantage to any side. You cannot buy more newspaper adverts or television time than your opponents for example.

We also have strict rules preventing anyone from changing the law to help their supporters for money - there is currently an investigation going on about several members of the house of lords (our second chamber ) who are accused of doing precisely that. As you say corruption is sadly universal.

I am also sad to say your government controls your grocery shopping just as firmly as mine - they may not be as blatant about it or tell you anything about it but a simple search on banned food additives or chemicals should show you what they prevent any retailers from offering.


dr del