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    Re: bedding

    gotcha they have a vet there they dont sell anything thats sick or has mites cause they mostly deal with morphs and they have them side by side i talked them for a while before buying her even had her tested for diseases, etc

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    Re: bedding

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    gotcha they have a vet there they dont sell anything thats sick or has mites cause they mostly deal with morphs and they have them side by side i talked them for a while before buying her even had her tested for diseases, etc
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    Re: bedding

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    i have one that free roams and one in quarnatine then when my baby comes ill have her in quarnatine

    whats wrong with keeping more than one snake in a huge cage two females one male
    By free roam you mean just go where ever it pleases?

    It can be deadly to leave more than one BP in a cage. They will compete for every thing. They have even cannibalized each other when kept together.

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    i have changed up the cages several times in the last few days right now im making it where it looks good. hides, big logs, branches, and different levels with hides, i have one heat lamp for day and just a low watt infrared bulb for night

    right now im changing it up and adding a new bedding and adding plants and vines so there will be plenty of places to bask in and plenty of places to hide ill put a pic of the cage when i'm done
    BP's do not normally climb, and they are clumsy so they can fall and cause injury.

    Changing their cage will only stress them further. You should leave them be for about 2 weeks.



    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    i guess not then whats the importance of keeping them apart if your just gonna put them together anyways
    QT lets you catch parasites, diseases, or other issues before you have them in the same room.

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    i built my own cage so right now im builting a 2nd floor(platform) in cage so i can give my BALLS more places to go
    They are ground dwellers.

    Quote Originally Posted by DutchHerp View Post
    You want to keep them apart so that if the other one has mites, diseases, etc. your other snakes won't get them... even if it's in a different tank mites and various other bad stuff can go to the other cage.

    Yes, you're gonna put them together, after your 100% your new snake is completely healthy.
    100% on the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    gotcha they have a vet there they dont sell anything thats sick or has mites cause they mostly deal with morphs and they have them side by side i talked them for a while before buying her even had her tested for diseases, etc
    A lot of pet stores are liars... Not all of them but a lot just want the sale and will BS you if they can. Not saying this is the case with this pet store but better safe than sorry.

    and not all diseases can be caught with preventative tests, just necropsy and you don't want to do the second test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    gotcha they have a vet there they dont sell anything thats sick or has mites cause they mostly deal with morphs and they have them side by side i talked them for a while before buying her even had her tested for diseases, etc
    Generally you'd want to be extra sure.... but they're your snakes.
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    They are ground dwellers.
    True, but every snake is different.

    However, I'm with you on that they're clumsy and you should provide sturdy, very large climbing areas; they can fall and hurt themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchHerp View Post
    True, but every snake is different.

    However, I'm with you on that they're clumsy and you should provide sturdy, very large climbing areas; they can fall and hurt themselves.
    This is true. I just figure the basic generalizations for standard BP care is what should be covered now. I have no problem with providing heavy things to climb on as long as it cant fall and hurt them. BP are remarkably strong for their size.


    Also I found this link that helps a little

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    Re: bedding

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    whats the best to you for bedding carpet, aspen, bark, or sand????
    You have a few choices that work well for BP's...

    Personally I use paper towels, but you could always use newspaper or Aspen as well. Make sure to stay away from Pine and Cedar as it is toxic for reptiles I would also stay away from reptile carpet you don't want to deal with the bacteria that grows on it since it is hard to clean thoroughly.


    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    right now i have indoor/outdoor carpet cause i got tired of cleaning up bark then i heard not to use bark then again i heard aspen can have meldew and mold with high humidity. so im left with carpet for now or untill i find something thats great for humidity. i have 2 4x2x2 enclosures one cagesbydesign and one i built my self. with carpet they stay around 45 to 50% humidity
    You could use newspaper or paper towels that are easy to clean and replace and to help with humidity add moss (in a small dish or in a humid hide) that you would mist.

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    i have one that free roams and one in quarnatine then when my baby comes ill have her in quarnatine

    whats wrong with keeping more than one snake in a huge cage two females one male
    Dominance is a big thing. BPs are solitary creatures only coming together to mate. They will fight for the best spot in the hide, and it will cause both snakes undue stress. Plus if one gets ill you won't know which one it is. If one has a nasty poo or a regurge how will you know which snake it came from???


    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    no i feed them in a 10g tank seperatly

    its a pretty big cage

    That tank is far too big IMO for a BP which also adds to the snakes stress. Most adult BPs can live their lives comfortably in a 20L tank. They like feeling secure. Tight small spaces.

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    i have changed up the cages several times in the last few days right now im making it where it looks good. hides, big logs, branches, and different levels with hides, i have one heat lamp for day and just a low watt infrared bulb for night

    right now im changing it up and adding a new bedding and adding plants and vines so there will be plenty of places to bask in and plenty of places to hide ill put a pic of the cage when i'm done
    The snakes will be far better off in separate enclosures. IMO it sounds as you are doing what is most convenient for you and visually appealing for you and not what is best for your snakes.

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    i got a digital thermometer/hygrometer
    That's a good start

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    yeah i read all that.
    PLEASE read it again - it seems you missed some key points

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie&lemons View Post
    i guess not then whats the importance of keeping them apart if your just gonna put them together anyways
    THe point is you shouldn't keep them together

    Good luck

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