Do you think the drinking age should be 18 again?

[Typical_08]

Yes I know the message I quoted was not to me. I was attempting to figure out what exactly you are. You can not claim to be a liberal and a libertarian at the same time. They are two completely different belief sets.

If you do in fact stand for more personal freedom, less governmental intervention in some things. And more states rights, then you are most definitely not a liberal. That would make you a blue dog democrat. Or maybe a libertarian. But not a liberal.

[Egapal]

Yes I know the message I quoted was not to me. I was attempting to figure out what exactly you are. You can not claim to be a liberal and a libertarian at the same time. They are two completely different belief sets.

If you do in fact stand for more personal freedom, less governmental intervention in some things. And more states rights, then you are most definitely not a liberal. That would make you a blue dog democrat. Or maybe a libertarian. But not a liberal.

I am seriously going to need some sited references then cause I see no problem with being both a liberal and a libertarian. Please give me an a single example of how being a liberal prohibits me from calling myself a libertarian or visa versa. And once again Blue Dog Democrats are a subset of a political party. I am not claiming to be part of any political party. I am merely describing my political beliefs. Again not claiming to be part of any political party.

[JKExotics]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian

Google is your friend.

[FlowRock]

Strange how some threads develop, from "kids need beer" to "political discussion extravaganza" and even more strange that "communism" still is an issue in a country where "communists" never had, have or will have the possibilty to come into power by election and even less by civil uprising.
Russia went red by a civil war against a Zar, who did not care if half of his population starved, the people there had a reason to fight and high hopes in the communists (they were uneducated farmers and workers and some idealistic intellectuals, who forgot that humans are humans), the communists came to power in a war not by election. I do not think that the people in the down south or in the corn belt will (or even ever thought of to) grab their guns and storm D.C. to turn the U.S. in a communist country. No country I can remember turned Red by "free elections", there always have been something other involved, civil war, russian intervention etc. (Not to mention that some countrys who turned slight pink rapidly had big trouble with some intervention by CIA trained guerilla or worse, Chile for example)
The worst result of the anti-communist hysteria that broke out back then, was the election of a guy called Hitler (some might remember) who first promised to get rid of the communist danger (though he had the jews in the back of his mind).
And in the U.S. happened a quite odd witch hunt for "communists" in the 50s, that turned a lot of peoples life to the worse, just because they had some ideals (McCarthy).
Sorry for that off topic, but I always get a little bit hot when I feel that some people try to stamp certain political statements or beliefs "communist" and by doing so turning them "wrong", there is some more backup needed in my eyes.
By the way I think everyone should be allowed to do anything, as long he neither hurts bystanders nor the community (in every form) and on the other hand I see the need that a Goverment should care at least for a home, food and proper (no not just proper, the best) medical support for every citizen...
Cheers and happy drinking for all who are allowed to and to the others: DON`T DO IT....

[MarkS]

NO, I don't need anymore kiddies hanging out in my bar drinking their light beers and wine coolers and tutti fruiti cocktails. They should go back to drinking in their cars and underneath the bleachers at the football field where they belong.

[Egapal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian

Google is your friend.

Yup, still sticking by my statements.

[ThyTempest]

Actually, that would be a democracy

A republic has the population vote people into office, and then those people make the laws, which is why it's so important to know the character and stances of the people you are voting into office.

Also, it is technically up to each state to determine the drinking age, but it was agreed upon by all the states to make it 21 across the board.

If you want to get technical, the US is a democratic republic. The only direct voting we do is for the president and local elections....all of our laws, etc...we vote for Senators, Congressmen, Representative for some committee, etc.

[Typical_08]

I am not claiming to be part of any political party. I am merely describing my political beliefs. Again not claiming to be part of any political party.

Very well then. But as libertarians and liberals are essentially polar opposites, you can not honestly claim to be both.

[Egapal]

Very well then. But as libertarians and liberals are essentially polar opposites, you can not honestly claim to be both.

If they are such polar opposite then give me an example, any example at all of conflicting core beliefs. One sited example and should be easy to supply.

[Typical_08]

Brady ban, foreign policy, governmental spending, welfare. Should I continue?