Quote Originally Posted by Egapal View Post
Libertarian means you don't want anyone telling you what to do. What I was saying is that goverments goal should be to preserve rights for all. These things are all pretty subtle and I would say that I am in many ways a libertarian as well.
Not so much. Please educate yourself. And no I am not a Libertarian.




What you are doing there is called Reductio ad absurdum. Basically you are saying that being a liberal is wrong because of what taking my beliefs to the extreme are. I do not take my beliefs to the extreme and so I don't get your point. I am not a communist just a liberal.
I do not know about him. But I am saying that being a lib is wrong because of what it stands for today. How can you identify with a group that does not share your beliefs or politics?




Well I am an atheist so that leaves us both at about the same place. You can believe that Jesus existed and was a stand up guy without being Christian.
Yes you sure can. You can also see that when he said we should help the poor or weak or how ever you see it, that he said we, not the government.


but I disagree with your assertion that liberals want to restrict liberties.
Then please explain the standard lib campaign. And tell me how it does not restrict the liberties of the people. Take a look at the liberal democrats and how they have voted, then tell me how they are not trying to take away our liberties.

Like I said I am a pretty strong libertarian who likes roads
No, you said you were about as liberal as they come.