This is how Vick makes it back to the NFL

[ZinniaZ]

I did a quick image search because I feel that the dogs should continue to tell the story. He will have done his time, but regular people who do crimes and go to prison face censure and a rough battle getting any kind of life back. Why should Vicks be any different? And-- have the dogs recovered their lives?

I'm not going to post all of the images. Some are really graphic. The faces of the crime:
http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg





Link to more photos and rehab stories:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/feat...s_where_are_t/

47 dogs were rehabbed and have gone on to quiet homes. I hope Vicks doesn't get to play any more football. I hope he has to face this every day. Prison is only one consequence. I want him to face the consequences of this for a long long time.

[snakewrangler]

As has already been explained, he recieved a harsher punishment than a majority of others that have committed the same crime.

To clarify, I meant the prison conditions. I would doubt that he is in general population with murderers and hardened criminals.

[Typical_08]

To clarify, I meant the prison conditions. I would doubt that he is in general population with murderers and hardened criminals.

You do not go to a white collar prison for an felony like this. And he did not go to some cushy state pen. he went to Leavenworth.

And I beleive he did in fact go to general pop (least that is what I have read). In addition to the prison. He paid an easy million to care for the pups that he hurt, he was then sued for 2.3 million by the Royal Bank of Canada because as he lost his job, and had to give a mill for the pups he had to sell his home (etc), The courts then said that instead of 2.3 mil, he had to give them 2.5 mil. And then 1st source bank sued him for two mil because he had to go back on renting cars from them because he was in jail. They were awarded 400k.

Vick then defaulted on a loan from Wachovia because he was in prison and was sued for around 1.1 mil, then there is having to pay back a sign-on bounus, and a ton of other stuff.

He went to prison worth about 50 mil. Because of other creditors and what not he will come out with,,,, nothing. Yeah he got off easy.

Do I feel sorry for him? Not one tiny little bit. But please do not even attempt to say he got off easy. I would challange you to show me one common person that has lost so much for this crime.

[mainbutter]

To clarify, I meant the prison conditions. I would doubt that he is in general population with murderers and hardened criminals.

According to the law, and society in general, dog fighting is much much less of a crime than murder, or even selling drugs. It's understandable because of that, he is not equatable to murderers and hardened criminals. That's just how it is in the books, and how most people view it. Animal lovers are a special breed who give more care to furry, scaly, and slimy friends. However, they are a minority of the population.. Take this as you will.

[N4S]

Can't wait to see him play again.

He did his time.

[Typical_08]

Apologies, he went to the medium security facility at Leavenworth.

[Muze]

According to the law, and society in general, dog fighting is much much less of a crime than murder, or even selling drugs. It's understandable because of that, he is not equatable to murderers and hardened criminals. That's just how it is in the books, and how most people view it. Animal lovers are a special breed who give more care to furry, scaly, and slimy friends. However, they are a minority of the population.. Take this as you will.

And this is exactly what I would like to see change.

[dsirkle]

The Lion's need him more than the Bear's do. And a dog fighter would have many fans in Detroit.

[Typical_08]

And this is exactly what I would like to see change.

So you think that crimes against animals should be more harshly punished that murdering a human?

[Morphie]

Malicious crimes against animals should be punished as hard as crimes against children, which should both be as hard as (in the event of premeditated), or harder than (in the event of lower degrees), crimes against adult humans.

The reason for this philosophy, in my mind, is that while you can have a legitimate beef with an adult - someone who has wronged you and given you reason to be angry, there is no justification for violence against animals and children, who are innocent. It takes actual cruelty - a special sort of person - to harm the innocent, and if they are verifiably sane, it should be considered a capital sin.

Animals in society are a product of human intervention. Since it was our collective choice to include them in our homes and on our farms, it is our collective responsibility to take care of them and offer them protection from cruelty. Obviously we take more liberties with animal lives than we do with human lives, but intentional, conscientious malicious acts against them (with only the intent to hurt the animal behind it) should carry the same weight of responsibility as it does against the innocents of our own species. The reason for this is simple; the people who are able to hurt innocents of any species are able to do it to our own - and it's best that they be removed from our society as there is no room for them within it.

I am not an advocate of cruel or unusual punishment, but those who prove that they are incapable of acting civilly and participating like well-adjusted adults in society, unless they're mentally incapable of doing so, should not remain among those who can. It would be ideal to be able to send these people to another planet permanently and let them sort themselves out. Yes, that would be a pretty harsh punishment, but the prospect of having it happen to you would probably get a lot of people to think twice and behave themselves.