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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by SnM_Man View Post
    i would feed in her enclosure but i have eco-earth substrate ... not to mention a rather cramped cage with room to lay enough paper towle down to feed on... but the main reason for not wanting to go live is that its a lot easier to keep a freezer full of food on hand
    -Bites her bottom lip.- While, I don't normally condone feeding in a separate enclosure, you might think of that as an option. I used to feed my big female in the bathtub. O_o How large is the enclosure? What are you using?

    And please, please, please, don't be offended by this, but it's not about what's easier for you, but what's best for your snake. -Shrugs.-
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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by SnM_Man View Post
    wouldnt it be possible to get a bite inside the mouth with a face strike n not see it happen ??
    I don't understand what your saying, but theres no way I could ever see a snake getting bitten inside the mouth?

    There would be nothing to grab on to and bite..

    Eco-earth should be fine, unless he gets a sole mouthful of it, a little bit won't hurt him. I highly suggest feeding in the enclosure anyway.

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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

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    I don't understand what your saying, but theres no way I could ever see a snake getting bitten inside the mouth?

    There would be nothing to grab on to and bite..

    Eco-earth should be fine, unless he gets a sole mouthful of it, a little bit won't hurt him. I highly suggest feeding in the enclosure anyway.
    I do too. -Sighs.- I do with all of mine, now.
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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Are you doin the dead prey dance and wigglin it around for her? It sounds like you're just setting it in a enclosure. If you use tongs to move your pre-killed around it might help keep interest. I might be misunderstanding something though.

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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    There is a difference between f/t & fresh killed as far as scent and body temp
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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by Melicious View Post
    -Bites her bottom lip.- While, I don't normally condone feeding in a separate enclosure, you might think of that as an option. I used to feed my big female in the bathtub. O_o How large is the enclosure? What are you using?

    And please, please, please, don't be offended by this, but it's not about what's easier for you, but what's best for your snake. -Shrugs.-
    how can u condone feedin in the tank ??... if u have loose substrate u run the risk of impaction


    its not nessecerly whats best for the snake ... but how big my wallet is ..... but shes in a 10 gallon glass tank- with 2 hides n good size water dish - ... shes only maybe 24'' long now, im planing on making a custom enclosure in the near future.

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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by SnM_Man View Post
    how can u condone feedin in the tank ??... if u have loose substrate u run the risk of impaction


    its not nessecerly whats best for the snake ... but how big my wallet is ..... but shes in a 10 gallon glass tank- with 2 hides n good size water dish - ... shes only maybe 24'' long now, im planing on making a custom enclosure in the near future.
    Well, I use newspaper in my tubs and rack. I don't particularly like the loose substrates because they're a pain to clean, and the snakes are content on their paper.

    Even still, invest in a pair of hemostats/tongs/tweezers and use those to feed. You shouldn't have any issues if you're feeding in that matter.
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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    I don't understand what your saying, but theres no way I could ever see a snake getting bitten inside the mouth?

    There would be nothing to grab on to and bite..

    Eco-earth should be fine, unless he gets a sole mouthful of it, a little bit won't hurt him. I highly suggest feeding in the enclosure anyway.
    well if the snakes aim is off... which isnt the greatest to begin with ... the mouse/rat could def get a chance to chomp on the inside of the snakes mouth... which as it turns out a really hard area to treat

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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Warming up and wiggling dead prey on tongs is always helpful but live will get better feeding responses.

    That said, I feed 50+ snakes live every week, thats what they do. If you feed the appropiate size rodent(not too big) it will be easily overcome.

    You always wanna check your ambient temps in wintertime because a cooler room can weaken their feeding habits.

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    Re: about to make the dreadful switch :tears:

    Quote Originally Posted by SnM_Man View Post
    well if the snakes aim is off... which isnt the greatest to begin with ... the mouse/rat could def get a chance to chomp on the inside of the snakes mouth... which as it turns out a really hard area to treat
    You're talking about What-Ifs. I'm giving you some great options and you're playing the what-if game. If YOU do it correctly, you should have very minimal issues. I'm not trying to dissuade you from feeding frozen/thawed. That's a choice you and your snake need to figure out. I'm giving YOU options for feeding live, because I've done it for a long time. It's up to you. You can also use tongs/hemostats/tweezers, and dangle the prey item just as a few other people have suggested.

    You should also scent the room. There's a great DIY on pre-scenting as well. http://ball-pythons.net/modules/Sect...warticle&id=60
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