Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
I'm sorry, but you don't have to believe me, and disagreements make the world go around, whole-heartedly, and other wise.

Since you asked:

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...pythons_07.asp

Clutch Number 2...last pic on the right. You telling me this is a visual illusion?

I'm a Targeteer...I interpret images for a living...that is no illusion. Using the picture on the far left in that row I did a simple photo scale reciprical measurement. Measuring the width of the Super's nose with those of the two Cinny's shows that the Super's nose is, on average, 3.4mm wider at the widest part than the Cinny's at the widest part. In addition, using indirect ratio measurement, the Super's nose is .9mm taller than the two Cinny's on average. The combination of these two differences in width and height are what give it the duckbill look....not an illusion, a tweeked BP.

And before you ask, I checked my measurments against 3 other pictures showing multiple BP's in the same frame (constant photo scale) and all their measurements came out to within .2mm of eachother...well with in standard deviation error perimeters.
This is exactly why I challenged you on that. It is Human Nature for us to think someone that we respect words are true. When a Ball Python breeder of the caliber of Kevin McCurley, Tracy and Dave Barker, or Ralph Davis state something everyone takes it as the absolute truth. Ralph Davis was one of the earliest breeders to come out and declare a problem with the Super Black Pastel and Super Cinnamons. He states so in the link you have posted and has also posted like information on his Journal Pages. A lot of people have read this information you included. I think this is affecting your opinion. The fact that you evaluate photographs for a living makes it harder for me to believe you do. I look at the pictures at the link you are referring to and once again I am sorry but I do not see any problem with the Super Cinny in question.

As far as that goes Ralph Davis may be changing his original opinion also. When I hatched out my Silver Bullet (Super Cinnamon/Pastel) one of the first persons I sent the pictures to was Ralph. I asked him if he thought there was any problem with the nose on him. In case you do not know Ralph personally he likes to screw with you so this response was to be expected - “looks great Albey..........but if you can't see that he has the classic "platypus face"...........well...........your BLIND!! LOL........a big GRATS!!.............I love the pics of it while still in the egg. What makes them look so weird is that the head looks elongated and the cheeks not full enough...........it's an optical illusion”.

Here is said picture in egg.