Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
Interesting take on things. Are you really saying that as a breeder, one who is NOT in it for the money (HA), that you feel no responsibility to better the breed by culling those with obvious defects?
I see where you are coming from with this. these lines need to be cleaned up a bit so to speak. there are carmels out there without kinks and spiders that don't show spinning or wobbels as much as others. i feel extra care should go into breeding these morphs to keep these defects from happening. less sibXsib breeding with these.

Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
If you actually LISTEN to ralphs video with the caramels he never says he WON'T breed them. Which means he might which means he probably has.?
i don't know ralph personally nor do i speak for him or against him. i was unaware that it was him in the video. but i would think that a breeder as large as ralph woudn't have to breed the defected animals as he probably has many unkinked ones in his collection. i was simply pointing out the fact that a breeder as large as he shows compasion to these animals and doesn't kill them becasue of defects.

Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
And phthbbbtt to you and your condemning anyone who breeds just for money. Who the bloody hell are YOU to tell anyone what to do? Don't your very heros sell reptiles for money? LLL, broker and NOT a breeder and KNOWN to sell crap disguised as snakes.
im not condemning anyone just stating what i belive on this matter. it is a sore subject with me the way some people just kill animals because and only because they won't make good breeders. in my post you will notice i did say if they will have a hard time living or are prone to issues then something should be done. i am a biologist and value all living things defected or not. heck i even have a hard time killing feeders.

and i never backed LLL in anyway. i only stated that they were a broker.

Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
BHB is the model all of you should be emulating, especially those of you, like this guy I quoted, who don't know spit from shinola.
i agree with you fully on this! again i never said a bad word about BHB. not sure if this was directed at me.