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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Once again, I couldn't agree with Starmom more. I have had nearly the exact same results. Go Starmom!!!

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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus_Love View Post
    I've also wondered about this. When people post pictures of their setup in a glass tank, occasionally you'll see the comment "That tank is too small for your adult." But, I've seen more pictures of racks/tubs that are, imo, small, for adults. Alot of people have said they just use 41qt tubs for their adults I think? Those seem too small, to me anyway. They seem perfect for my juvies, but for adults... Is there a reason for this?

    I'm just trying to figure out the right size tubs to get for my rack..
    I can't recall ever seeing anyone say that about a tank - more often than not, the comment is "that tank is too big for your baby", or someone will post a 79 gallon tank for an adult that doesn't need much more than a 40 gallon breeder.

    Tubs and racks are far easier to maintain heat and humidity properly, my snakes seem to prefer smaller enclosures to larger - when moved to larger enclosures, some have to go back to smaller to feed again (will refuse food when in a larger enclosure).

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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    The effect?

    They are healthy, stress free, eat with consistency and breed

    Yes rack do allow for thermal gradient just like a tank does you provide a hot pot and a cool spot.

    As far as hides not everyone use them in a rack, personally I offer 1 which is moved around from cool to warm end. (I would rather provide 1 and have it not being used than not providing one and it being needed). Remember that rack offer more security than a tank which is why hides are not always necessary with a that kind of setting (it comes down to observing and knowing your animal.)

    Originally Posted by Lateralus_Love
    I've also wondered about this. When people post pictures of their setup in a glass tank, occasionally you'll see the comment "That tank is too small for your adult." But, I've seen more pictures of racks/tubs that are, imo, small, for adults. Alot of people have said they just use 41qt tubs for their adults I think? Those seem too small, to me anyway. They seem perfect for my juvies, but for adults... Is there a reason for this?
    First I never seen comment such as
    That tank is too small for your adult
    however I have seen the opposite countless time and for a good reason.

    Keep in mind that the footprint of a 41 quarts tub is about the same than a 30 gallons tank, and that BP are ground dwellers they do not require heights.

    Also keep in mind that an adult does not require anything larger than a 30 gallons tank.
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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    while I do not have a rack (yet) I recently moved my biggest bp from his glass tank to a tub for the winter, as humidity was impossible to keep up. I thought I would just do it for the winter, as his tank is a great display tank, but upon further review, I think I'm going to keep him in a tub. My other two balls went straight into 16q tubs when I got them, and man it is so much easier to take care of....easier to clean, easier to heat, much much easier to keep humidity up...

    This spring I'm going to be working on a couple racks (one for 16q tubs and the other for 28q or whatever walmart is carrying at the time) and then filling them with snakes, and I have no doubts the rack will be enjoyed by my ball pythons

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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smith285 View Post
    while I do not have a rack (yet) I recently moved my biggest bp from his glass tank to a tub for the winter, as humidity was impossible to keep up. I thought I would just do it for the winter, as his tank is a great display tank, but upon further review, I think I'm going to keep him in a tub.
    Good Choice!

    Honestly, if you want a display snake you're better of going with a nice colubrid (bull, corn, king etc...) They're extremely easy (relatively) to keep and are usually out looking around and climbing a lot more than a BP during the day.

    I keep all of my balls in a couple of RBI 32qt racks. The babies and juvies (as well as one picky feeder who seems to love small spaces) are in divided tubs with one hide in the back.

    (Ignore the humidity lvls the bottom thermometer is busted and the top one was wet lol )
    The older and larger snakes all have a full tub to themselves and I'll be getting a 15qt and a CB70 rack from RBI eventually for babies and large females (I've got a couple girls that I just KNOW are going to be freakin massive lol late 07 is already almost 900g she's gonna be a bigun lol). All of my snakes thermoregulate perfectly, the racks being completely enclosed and black I think make for a much more private feeling for them they always seem to be comfortable and I never have a problem feeding.
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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Wow, thanks guys for the input. I have a much better understanding now.
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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    I can't recall ever seeing anyone say that about a tank - more often than not, the comment is "that tank is too big for your baby"
    I think the previous comment I made was standing out in my mind because of a recent post where someone had their adult in a tank that looked extremely small and a couple ppl commented on that. It had a half log hide that took up pretty much an entire half of the tank, and then the other half was a bit water dish, with hardly any open ground. I can't find the post though so whatever

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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Never really got the "lack of movement" arguement.

    I watch my BPs that are in tubs, and they can do laps just as easy as any I ever kept in tanks.

    Think about it.

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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    I think racks are proven to be the best way to keep most snakes.
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    Re: Affects of racking your snakes?

    Quote Originally Posted by greghall View Post
    I think racks are proven to be the best way to keep most snakes.
    I'm glad that several of my snakes don't know about this 'proof'


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