Please help!! I think my girl is in pain!!

[Crazy4Herps]

Thank you so much everybody! Her eyes clouded today.

[771subliminal]

Actually, I do have that verty thermometer, $12 at Walmart. (By the way, I love it!) Over the heat pad, it is always between 90-92 during the day, and a little lower at night. But I check it with my hand regularly, just in case.

And I do intend on getting a thermostat, but I'm not sure whether to use it for the 100w CHE (on all night too) or the heat pad. Or both?

both

you dont want the thermostat to turn off your uth but let you che fry from above.

and double check cuz lots of times you dont need a che with the uth your just makeing a bigger battle for yourself to keep up the humidity

[MDB]

Thank you so much everybody! Her eyes clouded today.

glad to hear shes okay

[PanteraKatie]

no one explained what a deep shed is. i'm interested in knowing this.

[anendeloflorien]

no one explained what a deep shed is. i'm interested in knowing this.

Deep shed, from my understanding an observation is just a snake that is very close to shedding and/or having a hard time getting to the point where they can slough due to inadequate temperatures/humidity or stress. Speaking from my own experience I know that certain animals shed faster (usually the younger ones) and will go from pink belly (usually the first sign of a shed) to blue, to clear, to shed sometimes in 4-5 days. While at the same time another snake housed in the same exact environment with humidity and temps exactly the same will take a week and half to 2 weeks to go through the whole cycle and may be in "deep blue" (eyes extremely cloudy to the point where you can hardly see the iris and scales very very dark) for up to a week.
Hope this helps. I'm sure other people have different experiences also .

[Crazy4Herps]

Yeah, my girl takes usually over a week to shed. Which I'm not happy about because I get so lonely without being able to hold her!!

[Kryptonian]

My big girl always takes a long time to shed, even with the perfect conditions. She takes 3 weeks. She always has even from her previous owner. She is 6 years ols.

As for the tight squeeze I live by the rule if the head can get through the rest can too? My new boa proved that. He is a very solid snake and about pop can thick. Well I had him out and he was chilaxing on my bed, which he seems to just love doing, hes a lap snake. Well I needed to use the washroom and rather than fight hin back into his cage I just took him with me. I placed him on the floor thinking he will just slither around a couple minutes. Well the space under the door is about a half inch, 3/4 inch at most, but thats enough to get his head under. And this is what he did, he went under till about a foot where he started o get thicker and then the waiting game began. You can't pull them back wards so I had to wait till he got all the way. Meanwhile I am trapped in the bathroom since opening the door would be a bad thing. Took him about a half hour to squeeze his way through. When he was done my cat ( who is used to the snake and will not hurt them, she keeps her distance and just watches) she was sitting with this look on her face like wtf? Anyway he was fine, tired since he just went right back to chilaxing on my bed agian while I watched a movie.

[Crazy4Herps]

My big girl always takes a long time to shed, even with the perfect conditions. She takes 3 weeks. She always has even from her previous owner. She is 6 years ols.

As for the tight squeeze I live by the rule if the head can get through the rest can too? My new boa proved that. He is a very solid snake and about pop can thick. Well I had him out and he was chilaxing on my bed, which he seems to just love doing, hes a lap snake. Well I needed to use the washroom and rather than fight hin back into his cage I just took him with me. I placed him on the floor thinking he will just slither around a couple minutes. Well the space under the door is about a half inch, 3/4 inch at most, but thats enough to get his head under. And this is what he did, he went under till about a foot where he started o get thicker and then the waiting game began. You can't pull them back wards so I had to wait till he got all the way. Meanwhile I am trapped in the bathroom since opening the door would be a bad thing. Took him about a half hour to squeeze his way through. When he was done my cat ( who is used to the snake and will not hurt them, she keeps her distance and just watches) she was sitting with this look on her face like wtf? Anyway he was fine, tired since he just went right back to chilaxing on my bed agian while I watched a movie.

Wow, 3 weeks! That's pretty long.
Yes, I agree with that, too. To keep myself from going crazy while I saw my baby squeeze through a tiny, sharp-edged area, I kept talking to her. I said "You got yourself into this, and you're going to have to get yourself out." And she did. Like you said, it's impossible to pull them out backwards; they will flex their muscles and wedge themselves, which might hurt more. And I don't think there is any major risk. Snakes aren't stupid (well, they aren't exactly bright (my girl's proved that many times!)). They have survived long enough in the wild. There is no reason any snake would squeeze into a space that would hurt them unless they were very threatened.

[dr del]

Hi,

Just for future readers it is not impossible to pull them out backwards - it is merely a slow, careful process.

You should not try this at all if there are rough, sharp edges on the inside of the hole they are going through - in that case just hold until you can find an alternative way in or give up and retrieve them later.

But if the only thing holding them in is their own muscle strength wrapped around something then here is how I have done it in the past;

You cannot force them out when they are actively fighting but if you keep hold to prevent them going further in they will eventually relax a little - at that point you can usually retrieve a couple fo centimeters before they tense up again. When they tense up stop pulling immediately and just wait until the next relaxation.

It will take a very, very long time for a decent sized snake (I was doing this with a six foot king snake going into an ornamental fireplace with holes directly into other flats through the floor and no way to dismantle it short of a sledgehammer. Not a good idea in a rented flat ) it took me just over four hours to finally get him loose - at which point he bit the bejessus out of me and pooped everywhere.

But remember - if there are sharp edges it is definately worth trying to find plan B.


dr del

[Lateralus_Love]

Hi,

Just for future readers it is not impossible to pull them out backwards - it is merely a slow, careful process.

You should not try this at all if there are rough, sharp edges on the inside of the hole they are going through - in that case just hold until you can find an alternative way in or give up and retrieve them later.

But if the only thing holding them in is their own muscle strength wrapped around something then here is how I have done it in the past;

You cannot force them out when they are actively fighting but if you keep hold to prevent them going further in they will eventually relax a little - at that point you can usually retrieve a couple fo centimeters before they tense up again. When they tense up stop pulling immediately and just wait until the next relaxation.

It will take a very, very long time for a decent sized snake (I was doing this with a six foot king snake going into an ornamental fireplace with holes directly into other flats through the floor and no way to dismantle it short of a sledgehammer. Not a good idea in a rented flat ) it took me just over four hours to finally get him loose - at which point he bit the bejessus out of me and pooped everywhere.

But remember - if there are sharp edges it is definately worth trying to find plan B.


dr del

LOL oh man. That'd drive me insane. Sorry sorry I'm not laughing at you! But I lawl'd so hard I almost fell out of my chair