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    Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Why is it that with all other sub-species of snake mutations, a ghost is an homozygous double recessive Hypo and Axanthic/Anerythristic and yet, with ball pythons, they are clearly Hypo and yet people still refer to them as ghost?

    Didn't Dan and Colette name their double-homo Hypo/axanthic ''The Ghost'', shouldn't the old discontinued Barker term ''Ghost'' for Hypos be given up and properly use the accepted term ''Hypo''...

    Curious to see what others think?

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    People have already started to drop the name ghost on the old ghost, and calling them only hypos now that the True ghost has been made.
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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    People have already started to drop the name ghost on the old ghost, and calling them only hypos now that the True ghost has been made.
    Matt is correct, but personally i still like the name ghost haha.

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    but personally i still like the name ghost haha.
    OK cool but why do you prefer calling them ghost?

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Quote Originally Posted by the odds god View Post
    OK cool but why do you prefer calling them ghost?
    Becuae they look ghost like, dont get me wrong i like hypo also. But its just a cool name for a type of snake.

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Good stuff Drew, I see in your snake list you have a female Butterscotch Hypo and not a butterscotch ghost, I see you are on the Hypo bandwagon

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Quote Originally Posted by the odds god View Post
    Good stuff Drew, I see in your snake list you have a female Butterscotch Hypo and not a butterscotch ghost, I see you are on the Hypo bandwagon
    Haha you know it. She is such a amazing snake i love her. Going to make me some really pretty babies someday

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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Quote Originally Posted by the odds god View Post
    Why is it that with all other sub-species of snake mutations, a ghost is an homozygous double recessive Hypo and Axanthic/Anerythristic and yet, with ball pythons, they are clearly Hypo and yet people still refer to them as ghost?

    Didn't Dan and Colette name their double-homo Hypo/axanthic ''The Ghost'', shouldn't the old discontinued Barker term ''Ghost'' for Hypos be given up and properly use the accepted term ''Hypo''...

    Curious to see what others think?
    I just wanted to clarify one statement in your original post. Ghost in other species does not always refer to Double Recessive mutations. In Boas, Hypomelanism is dominant, and therefor a Ghost Boa is a Double mutation containing recessive and dominant traits. It could also be stated that a Ghost Boa could be a Heterozygous/Homozygous mutation, because a Ghost could be made from an Anerythristic (homozygous) and a Hypo (Heterozygous), since the Hypo gene is sometimes stated as a co-dominant. However, some believe that the Heterozygous and Homozygous forms are sometimes indistiguishable, which would mean that it is a truly dominant animal.

    On the note of Ball Pythons, I have always called my Hypos just that, as I have long wanted to create a "True Ghost". I believe that a Hypomelanistic animal should be called just that (however, noone has actually had a hypo tested to se if it really produces a reduced amount of melanin).

    Hope that shed some light on something,
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    Re: Calling them Ghost or Hypo!

    Quote Originally Posted by muddoc View Post
    I just wanted to clarify one statement in your original post. Ghost in other species does not always refer to Double Recessive mutations. In Boas, Hypomelanism is dominant, and therefor a Ghost Boa is a Double mutation containing recessive and dominant traits. It could also be stated that a Ghost Boa could be a Heterozygous/Homozygous mutation, because a Ghost could be made from an Anerythristic (homozygous) and a Hypo (Heterozygous), since the Hypo gene is sometimes stated as a co-dominant. However, some believe that the Heterozygous and Homozygous forms are sometimes indistiguishable, which would mean that it is a truly dominant animal.

    On the note of Ball Pythons, I have always called my Hypos just that, as I have long wanted to create a "True Ghost". I believe that a Hypomelanistic animal should be called just that (however, noone has actually had a hypo tested to se if it really produces a reduced amount of melanin).

    Hope that shed some light on something,
    Very interesting Tim thank you.

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