that i can relate to and agree with. as far as coloring or them being called coined as hcq or whta ever someone whats to call them for what ever purposes rather it be marketing or whatever that happens every day in all sorts of business advertisements and such. what i am disagreeing to and and the purpose of the debate/ discusion is that fact of rather it being a tiger or not. also as you stated the tiger inheritance is still edgucated gueses so rather none of us know for sure i guess none of us can say rather a tiger has to be fully striped or not. i understand that a hcq is just merely a nice coastal and i dont dissagree with that but to say because a something doesnt have a solid stripe so therefor cant be a tiger in my opinion is false. im sure they are alot of breeders that say they cant and alot they say they can and all of the ones i am aware of (some that are very well known) say they can and do. but if the tigers inheritance is just an edgucated guess then that would mean that niether one of us can say we are right or wrong then doesnt it? that would mean none of us can prove whats actually a tiger and what isnt. i have a carpet that has a stipe down its back and a stripe down one of its side and was procuded by anthony caponneto so does that make it a tiger since it has a a stripe? i mean im willing to take all information because i have not been into carpets long and i dont claim to know everything i just learn by reading and what i have read from or by big time breeders appears to be different then others opinions so if you have more information or proof on what a tiger is and what it isnt then by all means share it and ill read up on it.