I have read the literature on this, extensively...I guess I am just a person who thinks animals are animals, no souls, just trained responses throughout time. I will admit I am new to herping and I do appreciate all and every opinion on this sensitive matter. I guess what I was just looking for what a general acceptance on my method of stunning and then feeding because I do not have the money or enough snakes to buy a large quanitity of frozen mice/rats. My methods work best for me and I have had no problems with my snake so far. So simplechamp I guess my answer to your question would be that no my mind hasn't changed because of this thread, i believe it might change with the more snakes I get.