PICTURES of my new Boxer baby

[frankykeno]

Awwwww, he is so cute!

I didn't realize that white pups were culled . . . can someone explain why this "used to" happen?

Alice, this is from the AKC breed standards (my bold)....

Color
The colors are fawn and brindle. Fawn shades vary from light tan to mahogany. The brindle ranges from sparse but clearly defined black stripes on a fawn background to such a heavy concentration of black striping that the essential fawn background color barely, although clearly, shows through (which may create the appearance of reverse brindling). White markings, if present, should be of such distribution as to enhance the dog's appearance, but may not exceed one-third of the entire coat. They are not desirable on the flanks or on the back of the torso proper. On the face, white may replace part of the otherwise essential black mask, and may extend in an upward path between the eyes, but it must not be excessive, so as to detract from true Boxer expression. The absence of white markings, the so-called "plain" fawn or brindle, is perfectly acceptable, and should not be penalized in any consideration of color. Disqualifications Boxers that are any color other than fawn or brindle. Boxers with a total of white markings exceeding one-third of the entire coat.

So sadly, whether it's moral or not, some breeders apparently can't be bothered with pups that are too white. Instead of doing the right thing and letting an otherwise perfectly healthy pup nurse frpm it's mother, then selling it or adopting it out as a pet only pup with a must spay/neuter clause - they are discarded. Sad isn't it.

[rabernet]

Actually, I was told by a neighbor who had a pure white boxer (that taught Diamond how to box), that breeders culled the white, because there were known health genetic defects associated with white boxers.

This was years ago, so I don't remember the specific details, but I remember how much we loved Raiden (they've since moved) and were surprised to hear of the culling of white boxers as well.

[sweety314]

a lot of breeds have blindness and deafness in high whites.

Thanks Joanna for the quote from the AKC c the amount of white. I couldn't remember how much it was that disqualified a dog. It's been many years since we had ours, and she was a fawn w/only white toes.

[JoMo]

I think you have to separate albino boxers and (simply) white boxers.

Albinism is known to generate several deficiencies in boxers, being blindness and deafness two of the major ones (but also kidney problems, if I remember it well).

"Whitness" is a different story. As long as the one of the parents has the recessive gene - even if they have no white at all - the puppies may be 1% to (close to) 100% white.

As Joanna mentioned, according to the breed standards, only up to 1/3 of the dog may be white. A few years ago there was a movement to change that - in the US or Canada, I believe - because when breeding the Canada champion to the All America champion, in 8 puppies...8 were more than 1/3 white. I don´t know, however, how things developed (apparently they didn´t)

Here in Europe, the breed standard remains the same: more than 1/3 white is not considered within the breed standards.

By the way.. I just love your puppy!

But I´m partial... I just love white boxers

(I´ll post a picture of my 4 y.o. girl tomorrow)

[megabrain]

I just died from the cuteness.

I love Boxers. I'm so happy you saved him and brought him home.

[frankykeno]

JoMo, great point about the difference in white and being genetically an albino. I grew up with two GSD's. Beautiful big males, gorgeous look, well set, perfect temperment, very healthy and large males - definitely good representatives of their breed. Their biggest fault - they were born white. Snow white but not albino's.

[Phil]

He looks great! We have three Boxers with one being white. He is from champion lines and all it cost was a $50 donation! The whites are my favorite....

[blackcrystal22]

I think you have to separate albino boxers and (simply) white boxers.

Albinism is known to generate several deficiencies in boxers, being blindness and deafness two of the major ones (but also kidney problems, if I remember it well).

"Whitness" is a different story. As long as the one of the parents has the recessive gene - even if they have no white at all - the puppies may be 1% to (close to) 100% white.

As Joanna mentioned, according to the breed standards, only up to 1/3 of the dog may be white. A few years ago there was a movement to change that - in the US or Canada, I believe - because when breeding the Canada champion to the All America champion, in 8 puppies...8 were more than 1/3 white. I don´t know, however, how things developed (apparently they didn´t)

Here in Europe, the breed standard remains the same: more than 1/3 white is not considered within the breed standards.

By the way.. I just love your puppy!

But I´m partial... I just love white boxers

(I´ll post a picture of my 4 y.o. girl tomorrow)

This is very interesting and a good point! However, high-white non-albinos I have heard to have defects as well.
For example, cats that are all white with blue eyes tend to be blind and/or deaf. My aunt had an all white cat who was lucky to not be blind, but was almost completely deaf.

:]

That is one of the cutest boxers I have seen. Fantastic thing you did for him!

[JoMo]

So, as promised, here is my ("high white") girl
(pics are of Summer 06; se is now 4 y.o)







(she always look kind of "goofy")

[sweety314]

This is very interesting and a good point! However, high-white non-albinos I have heard to have defects as well.
For example, cats that are all white with blue eyes tend to be blind and/or deaf. My aunt had an all white cat who was lucky to not be blind, but was almost completely deaf.

:]

That is one of the cutest boxers I have seen. Fantastic thing you did for him!

THAT was the point I was trying to make, not the albinism.

We've got 10 dogs in the local rescue that are blind/deaf or both from either a wee bit to 100% b/c the backyard breeder bred two merle aussies together and the entire litter of 8 were affected to some degree.