well, guess the only way I'm gonna find out is if I get some asf's. I already know that I am not breeding mice again, well not on purpose anyway, cause they really STINK!!!! Hubby tolerates the smell of the rat tank, so maybe asf's are the way to go. Hubby has a really sensitive nose to smells, so if the smell bothers him he's gonna pester me about it. Plus, having all the animals in the livingroom doesn't make it any easier either.