well we have taken them out tonight and given the viv a damn good clean and and the good news is the boy has eaten as well, is the girl like corns do they have a post shed before they will feed as she wasnt interested.

We did notice when we got them out they are both rather flabby is this normal or are they underweight, I have ordered a book so hopefully when that comes I will stop with all the questions.

Anyway tom we are building them a new viv each with some nice hides as the one they are in you cant swing cat in it is just wide enough for when they are curled up but they touch the sides, the poor things havent been very well looked after.