Shipped my First Reptster Box!!!

[Patrick Long]

I used Reptster's services for the 1st time this week and couldn't be happier - No problems what so ever - Easy as Pie...



I'm curious how this can be bad for the community? Your verified - You get a free box and 20% off the shipping price - How is that bad? LOL...If Reptster makes a little coin off me by providing this service to the community and I save on average $18 a shipment - I'm more than fine with it...I would willing to bet that FedEx would handle a problem with Reptster faster than an individual's problem...

I agree BT, if it saves that much money, and they make a little off it, does it really hurt that bad. The people that you buy the boxes off of (that reptster gives you), they dont charge what they pay, so they make some money there too! Its all relevant.

[Larry Suttles]

I agree BT, if it saves that much money, and they make a little off it, does it really hurt that bad. The people that you buy the boxes off of (that reptster gives you), they dont charge what they pay, so they make some money there too! Its all relevant.

Yea I just got done shipping with Reptster.com and I couldn't be happier.

For once Fedex and UPS are willing to work with the reptile community, when in the pass both companies were considering stopping all snake shipments. Now thanks to David they're willing to work with us. Great for the industry imo and I can't see how anyone could say otherwise.

[daniel1983]

I'm curious how this can be bad for the community? Your verified - You get a free box and 20% off the shipping price - How is that bad? LOL...If Reptster makes a little coin off me by providing this service to the community and I save on average $18 a shipment - I'm more than fine with it...

Repster is has the legal waiver with Fedex....you and your customer are just using their service and are not 'verified' in anything. I am one to think that certain people should be 'qualified' to ship reptiles. Reptster requires no qualifications.

The legal aspect. Someone ships a kingsnake into Georgia....hognoses into Maryland....something venomous....doesn't label the box properly and violates the Lacy Act....Who is responsible when the law comes a callin'?

From a business standpoint.....Your customer saves $18 a shipment for letting Repster be the middleman for Fedex. I use Fedex directly and charge the customer the $18 extra shipping price. Your prices will alway be cheaper than mine unless I reduce the value of my animals to absorb the $18 or use Repster. That is forcing me in a corner and I do not like it.

When people where undercutting on actual animal prices it was a big no-no....but when they undercut on shipping prices it is ok?

...I would willing to bet that FedEx would handle a problem with Reptster faster than an individual's problem...

Will FedEx deal with your problems when you call them or will you have to call Repster and have them call Fedex to deal with the problem? Usually Fedex generally only allows authorized users on the Fedex account to deal with shipment issues so you probably have to trust Repster to deal with the situation immediately. Not saying they won't....I just wonder how thing will go when something goes wrong.

Personally, I can get on the phone with my account rep for Fedex and have any issues taken care of in a matter of minutes. Fedex has always provide great service for me....but now it seems I have to use a middleman in order to compete on pricing.

[BT41042]

Repster is has the legal waiver with Fedex....you and your customer are just using their service and are not 'verified' in anything. I am one to think that certain people should be 'qualified' to ship reptiles. Reptster requires no qualifications.

The legal aspect. Someone ships a kingsnake into Georgia....hognoses into Maryland....something venomous....doesn't label the box properly and violates the Lacy Act....Who is responsible when the law comes a callin'?

From a business standpoint.....Your customer saves $18 a shipment for letting Repster be the middleman for Fedex. I use Fedex directly and charge the customer the $18 extra shipping price. Your prices will alway be cheaper than mine unless I reduce the value of my animals to absorb the $18 or use Repster. That is forcing me in a corner and I do not like it.

When people where undercutting on actual animal prices it was a big no-no....but when they undercut on shipping prices it is ok?



Will FedEx deal with your problems when you call them or will you have to call Repster and have them call Fedex to deal with the problem? Usually Fedex generally only allows authorized users on the Fedex account to deal with shipment issues so you probably have to trust Repster to deal with the situation immediately. Not saying they won't....I just wonder how thing will go when something goes wrong.

Personally, I can get on the phone with my account rep for Fedex and have any issues taken care of in a matter of minutes. Fedex has always provide great service for me....but now it seems I have to use a middleman in order to compete on pricing.

Personally - I don't care who you use to ship...The way I understand it is - You are verified by watching the shipping video - You are using Reptster's account number - Which means you are verified to ship thru Reptster using the shipping techniques you watched in the video...Who's responsible if the law comes a calling - I would say Reptster is...I don't think $18 will make or break a sale - The animal you produced will make the sale...Sounds to me like you should just call David and ask all these question instead of making assumptions...Who said you had to use Reptster or their account? Use whoever you want -

[TooManyToys]

It's a joke referring to another thread.

Pattimust got it. Too bad you didn't. It was one of my better ones.

Next time hopefully. I really can be a funny guy.

Really.

No, I can.

Honest.

I will look for hidden meaning more deeply next time

[daniel1983]

Personally - I don't care who you use to ship...The way I understand it is - You are verified by watching the shipping video - You are using Reptster's account number - Which means you are verified to ship thru Reptster using the shipping techniques you watched in the video...Who's responsible if the law comes a calling - I would say Reptster is...I don't think $18 will make or break a sale - The animal you produced will make the sale...Sounds to me like you should just call David and ask all these question instead of making assumptions...Who said you had to use Reptster or their account? Use whoever you want -

I never asked you to care. Why should you? I can't save you $18.

Unlike you, I care about how others ship reptiles. If something goes wrong with someone elses shipment, it will have an effect on me shipping reptiles. Why do you think there are policies for shipping reptiles in the first place? It wasn't because every shipment went well and no bad press occured.

The way I understand it is - Ya'll just shipped your FIRST package with Reptster and are preaching like it is the savior of reptile shipping - I call that jumping the gun a bit.

If you think watching that video about shipping techniques gives a person the ability to handle shipping snakes properly you are mistaken....or I missed the section discussing how to deal with shipping errors and how to properly heat/cool a shipping box. Or the section discussing what you can and can't ship legally and to where...

$18 won't break a sale on a $1000 animal, but it can on a $50 animal. You think $18 won't break the deal on a cornsnake when another of equal quality is $18 cheaper?

I am asking questions and giving opinions...no assumptions. I like to ask questions instead of jumping on the promotional bandwagon like everyone else.

No one is forcing me to use Reptster.....yet. Just wondering how long until it is the only way to get 'verified' with Fedex.....sounds like UPS is already considering changing their policies to cash in.

[BT41042]

I never asked you to care. Why should you? I can't save you $18.

Unlike you, I care about how others ship reptiles. If something goes wrong with someone elses shipment, it will have an effect on me shipping reptiles. Why do you think there are policies for shipping reptiles in the first place? It wasn't because every shipment went well and no bad press occured.

The way I understand it is - Ya'll just shipped your FIRST package with Reptster and are preaching like it is the savior of reptile shipping - I call that jumping the gun a bit.

If you think watching that video about shipping techniques gives a person the ability to handle shipping snakes properly you are mistaken....or I missed the section discussing how to deal with shipping errors and how to properly heat/cool a shipping box. Or the section discussing what you can and can't ship legally and to where...

$18 won't break a sale on a $1000 animal, but it can on a $50 animal. You think $18 won't break the deal on a cornsnake when another of equal quality is $18 cheaper?

I am asking questions and giving opinions...no assumptions. I like to ask questions instead of jumping on the promotional bandwagon like everyone else.

No one is forcing me to use Reptster.....yet. Just wondering how long until it is the only way to get 'verified' with Fedex.....sounds like UPS is already considering changing their policies to cash in.

LOL...Just what I want to do on a Saturday night - Have a pissing contest with none other than little ol Daniel on BP.net...LOL...Who said I don't care how people ship reptiles? I never said that - You did...You said it's bad for the communtiy - I disagreed...Your damn right I'll promote it - IMO - It's a great resource and service for the community...Don't like me promoting it - Don't listening to my show or don't read my replies...Why not ask your questions to the man - David Young himself instead of on a forum? If $18 kills your Corn snake sell that's not my problem - It's yours...That's the species YOU decided to work with...UPS "cashing in" on it - Why wouldn't they - Their a business just like FedEx...Believe it or not - Business like to make money - even a profit...Nobody said we live in little ol Daniel's perfect little world but what Reptster is offering is a whole lot better than what was offered - If you can't see that then your either blind or just plain ol stupid...Almost forgot - No one can "force" you to done anything...Use whomever you like...If your already verified through FedEx why worry?

[kc261]

Wow. This thread seems to be getting a bit heated for no good reason that I see.

There is a new method for shipping reptiles that might open up a lot of shipping possibilities and save some people some money. That sounds like a good thing.

Daniel brings up a lot of questions and concerns about what might go wrong. Bringing them up is definitely is a good thing. And while, yes, he should ask those questions of reptster IF he is thinking about using reptster himself, I don't think that really was his point. I think he was trying to get people to think about both sides of the issue.

I understand most of the concerns. Who knows if they'll turn out to be real problems, but they should be thought about. While reptster looks like it has the potential to be great for the herp community, it also sounds like it has the potential to be disastrous. I don't know all the details of what was required to get Fedex certified, but if all you have to do to use reptster is "watch" a video... how many people are going to just say they watched it but didn't? Or didn't pay close attention? If stuff gets out to the press about lots of dead snakes and illegally shipped snakes and such things, yeah, I can see it getting bad for the herp community.

I don't quite get the concern about who is making money off of it, because business will be business and people will try to cash in. There may be sales lost because someone doesn't use reptster and can't compete with the shipping prices. There may also be sales gained if shipping via reptster becomes known as being of questionable quality since you can't know who actually knows how to ship snakes and who just said they watched the video but didn't, so some buyers may seek out those who are individually certified.

There are definitely 2 sides to this, and only time will tell which one will turn out to be the reality. Most likely, just like everything else in life, it will turn out to be something between the 2 extremes.

[BT41042]

Wow. This thread seems to be getting a bit heated for no good reason that I see.

There is a new method for shipping reptiles that might open up a lot of shipping possibilities and save some people some money. That sounds like a good thing.

Daniel brings up a lot of questions and concerns about what might go wrong. Bringing them up is definitely is a good thing. And while, yes, he should ask those questions of reptster IF he is thinking about using reptster himself, I don't think that really was his point. I think he was trying to get people to think about both sides of the issue.

I understand most of the concerns. Who knows if they'll turn out to be real problems, but they should be thought about. While reptster looks like it has the potential to be great for the herp community, it also sounds like it has the potential to be disastrous. I don't know all the details of what was required to get Fedex certified, but if all you have to do to use reptster is "watch" a video... how many people are going to just say they watched it but didn't? Or didn't pay close attention? If stuff gets out to the press about lots of dead snakes and illegally shipped snakes and such things, yeah, I can see it getting bad for the herp community.

I don't quite get the concern about who is making money off of it, because business will be business and people will try to cash in. There may be sales lost because someone doesn't use reptster and can't compete with the shipping prices. There may also be sales gained if shipping via reptster becomes known as being of questionable quality since you can't know who actually knows how to ship snakes and who just said they watched the video but didn't, so some buyers may seek out those who are individually certified.

There are definitely 2 sides to this, and only time will tell which one will turn out to be the reality. Most likely, just like everything else in life, it will turn out to be something between the 2 extremes.

I understand what your Casey but you have to underdstand little ol Daniel...He loves to stir the pot...I have asked him "Why not ask the man his questions"...Why ask people on a forum that don't have the answers...? How many people out there don't give a rat's ass about shipping and lie about what's in the box and just do what they do? There will always be those types of people and nothing me, you or Daniel do or say will change them...Nothing in this world is perfect - There is no perfect system for anything...IMO - What Reptster offers is a very nice service to the herp community...Sure you can sit here all night and poke holes in it but what out there can't you find fault in? For the responsible reptile shipper - It's a good thing...Again - IMO - A buyer isn't going to care that you ship through Reptster...Their going to trust you - You as a responsible, ethical and caring keeper/breeder of whatever it is your selling...But in reality it boils down to this - Don't like it - Don't use it...

[Larry Suttles]

What I don't understand is you condemning it based on what-if factors. Whether you get certified by shipping an empty box to FedEx or you watch a how to video by a guy that has literally shipped thousands of snakes, what-ifs will always be there.

Davids cell number is on the top of the page for a reason.

If you don't like it, don't use it nobodies cares either way.