Captive hatched vs. captive bred?

[Sonya610]

Ahhh...Panacur...well that is not very exotic! Standard procedure for all puppies. Please do let me know when you will be coming south, I don't want to drive the little guy 45 miles as it could cause stress. Maybe there will be a herp show or something as well.

[Sonya610]

You don't know that.
Most people don't think of the future when they need food or even just want a new radio.

Yes well there are a lot of younger people on this site that probably do NOT read that much about world events, foreign politics, or the habits/mindsets of different cultures.

I do not mean to sound judgemental but seriously, a lot of really dark things go on in this world, and in some places human babies mean very little, animals do not warrant even a second thought by the average person in those places.

[Spaniard]

I'm not going to say its either way as my concrete answer because quite simply I don't live in Ghana to know for sure how people view life. I'm not claiming that life in Africa is easy and that these people don't have immediate hardships to overcome everyday like food, water, or housing. Horrible things happen in Africa whether it be starvation, human rights issues, even the testing of pharaceudical drugs; but to say that they don't think about the future as a result of it is just something I can't fathom. Its a basic human driving force to want to create a better opportunity for the next generation. I understand it may not be easy or even possible for them to provide the better future they picture; but I don't think everyone is walking around without hope, dreams or aspirations for the future, however futile they may be. Its the hope of a better future that help people overcome their day to day hardships.

[nevohraalnavnoj]

Its a basic human driving force to want to create a better opportunity for the next generation. I understand it may not be easy or even possible for them to provide the better future they picture; but I don't think eveyone is walking around without hope, dreams or aspirations for the future, however futile they may be. Its the hope of a better future that help people overcome their day to day hardships.

I agree with you, Spaniard, and I think we also need to account for the fact that long term aspirations come into play once immediate needs are met. What's that saying, "Create enough hunger and everyone becomes a criminal." One of my good friends spent two years teaching high school in an impoverished area in Africa. Somewhere between 25% and 35% of the people there had HIV. The spread of the virus was largely from the fact that many young young women elect to go into the sex trade to make money for themselves and their families.

I couldn't even begin to wrap my head around it. How could so many young women elect that path??? And he explained it to me as a young women did to him "I can either day of starvation this month or die of AIDS 2 years from now", what a terrible reality to have to face.

So, back to the ball python trade, I think you could see the wild populations of these animals being over-caught if the immediate threat of starvation and need for money vastly outweighs the long term threat of putting yourself out of business.

JonV

[Schlyne]

No - parasites are not transported from mother to baby.

This is true except for external parasiters However, that is really an external parasite such as ticks crawling off the mother and crawling onto a freshly hatched baby.

There are some areas of Africa where ball pythons are considered to be sacred animals and are not collected at all.

As for HIV in africa...in some areas many of the condoms are bought by children to make balls.
See film below:

http://www.pangeaday.org/filmDetail.php?id=3

[Sonya610]

Its the hope of a better future that help people overcome their day to day hardships.

Uhh..start researching other continents. You have a good heart, but seriously, not everyone does.

[littleindiangirl]

Uhh..start researching other continents. You have a good heart, but seriously, not everyone does.

Ball pythons are collected in a very small portion of land in Ghana.


Africa is a large continent, I find your blanket statements are casting the entirety of it it in a light of very extreme poverty and hardships.

Places of extreme hardship can be found everywhere, but the human spirit does prevail in many places where the hardship is the worst.

I think perhaps this thread is getting derailed a bit.

[Spaniard]

We've obviously having a different view of opinion on the subject. It has nothing to do with me researching other countries; foreign language and culture is another passion of mine. I'm the son of an immigrant so I do have a clue about hardships in other countries and how people take the steps to rise above it to provide their families with a better future.

Agree to disagree

Edit: Sorry for derailing the thread, mostly my fault Having a slow day at work