Quote Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
And again, I ask, what do you do to those kids like me that are unaffected by simply time outs and groundings or taking things away??
How about making you responsible for your actions? I'm not going to keep going over why it is wrong. Just because you were a hard kid...you only see *your* perspective. There are ways to be very strict with a child and NOT hit them. I was a stubborn child too, except for my parents hitting/spanking me NEVER worked. It made me more defiant and even MORE stubborn. Just ask my dad. I brought him to tears because no matter much he spanked me and put me in the corner, I would *not* do what he wanted, and it wasnt always over anything bad...just cleaning my room would become a battleground between my parents and me.

So you want an example of how to handle a stubborn child? Here is one:
My stepsister is probably one of the worst children i've ever met.....(she's about 8 years younger than me, so I was able to see first hand how her behavior could be modified without hitting and spanking, thats the *easy* way out!)

She was kicked off the school bus for swearing and being a bully....And she had been warned, that if she got kicked off the school bus, she would have to walk to school. (she was 12 at the time) So sure enough, the next morning my mom got her ready for school, and drove the car behind her, every step of the 2 miles it took for her to go to school. It took her about 4 hours to do it. She kept throwing tantrums and being a total twit...yet she made it to school that day, and the next.. (she was suspended for a couple of days)....She never got kicked off the bus again. Was she instantly *cured* of her being a stubborn child? NO, were there many MANY other things that she did to act out...YES! and they were all handled in similar fashion. She had to earn every single privelege, from going outside to play, talking to her friends on the phone. Anything and everything that was important in her little world, she had to earn.

I agree not all personalities of children are easy to raise, but it still doesnt mean beating them is the only option to keep them in line.