you do have a very good point, i expect that they will color up after they are out and that "hypo look" they have will fade. From the lori pic ive seen i would have to say these are not super lori's either(wouldnt that be awsome), however from the limited pics ive seen het reds and loris do share some simularities, so mabey my brown stipe falls some where in between the two???
cheers-justin