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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Seconded!
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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    As far as enclosure stuff goes, i recommend 20 gallon long tank, this tank looks like it doesn't have much floor space, which is generally what balls prefer. the heat lamp needs to go somewhere the snake can't touch it directly, it can fry itself to death by wrapping around it when it is on. Snakes do not perceive heat the same way humans do, so they get burnt in situations that a human would not. Or a human would touch a hot surface and reflexively pull their hand away, where a snake only feels the warmth, not the burning and can hurt themselves from touching the incredibly hot heat source!

    your snake should calm down once you make some changes, the advice people are giving is correct and don't get butthurt because of criticisms. They are trying to help and are being serious because you need to know these things before your snake gets hurt or successfully escapes. Do what you will with the advice, but most people giving advice have been keeping many snakes for a long time. Concern for the animal often overrides some folk's "nice" attitudes. lol
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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    His belly looks pink in the photos. Is he coming up on a shed?


    Your attitude pretty much turns off many people that would want to help.

    First, your using a bowed front enclosure for fish. While good for fish, isn't optimal for a ground dwelling snake. It has a lot of air space, and little floor space.

    The open space, the open 3 sides and minimal hiding spots will put your snake under tremendous stress.

    The height can prove to be harmful if your snake falls from the top of the enclosure. Broken ribs, internal injury and death all come to mind.

    It's just not an optimal set up for a terrestrial snake.

    Second, you have the heat lamp inside the enclosure. This is a serious burn risk, especially more so when the snake can clearly get on the lamp. There are burn pictures all over the forum of snakes that wrapped around the heat lamp, with serious burns.

    Third, you are missing key equipment.
    A UTH and rheo/thermostat. It will give your snakes belly heat, aiding in digestion and also providing proper temps at the ground level for your tropical snake.

    The tank is also missing thermometers to measure the temps. It is very essential to KNOW your temps and not GUESS!

    Hygrometers, you dont know the humidity in the tank.

    2 identical hides to promote thermoregulation without stress. Providing a hot hide and cool hide will ensure that your snake can remain hidden and still stay at the best temps.

    Other than the very tall enclosure, I have to say that closing off 3 sides of the tank with paper or decorative poster will help your snake de-stress.

    I too have to advise a different enclosure. One that has a lot more floor space and less air space. Fish tanks are for fish.
    Besides the increased floor space, the lower the enclosure, the easier it is to maintain proper temps and humidity.

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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Quote Originally Posted by 51-50 Python View Post
    okay all you did was critisize and didnt answer anything..

    # 1 - are you blinde? do you not see that big light bulb its hanging from.. thats how im heating the tank

    # 2 - im measuring the temps with a stick-on thermometer which u can also see on the right side of the tank..

    my question was why is my BP all of a sudden doing this? because i turned the tank light off or is it because its getting too hot?
    #1 - No need to be rude to someone trying to help you. That "big light" inside the enclosure is a disaster waiting to happen. You're lucky you haven't had a burn yet.

    #2 - those stick on thermometers are crap - AND, you're not even measuring ground level temps.

    You've been advised on multiple occassions that your snake needs belly heat, that you need to use digital devices to measure temps, but you dismiss this advice, because you don't want to do those things.

    Bottom line, your snake is stressed and that's why it's acting the way that it is - it needs two SMALL identical hides, and it needs belly heat provided - it also does not need such a tall enclosure.

    When you're ready to make some adjustments and take people's advice - please let us know, otherwise we're really just wasting our breath offering you suggestions.

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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Mine do like to climb- I would provide a branch so he can climb about if he likes. I also would be worried of having the heat source inside the tank. Can you place it on top of the tank?
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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Yes, the light can be on top, but should NEVER be inside. I've seen enough pictures to never attempt. I have used a tank with the infrared lamp on top to provide a higher cool side temp. The UTH on the hot side, the lamp on the cool side to keep ambient temps at 80.

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    Dude face the facts.....

    Seriously, I have read alot of your posts here asking what is up!
    People give you advice and you you do not follow it.
    What are you looking for by posting here?

    Your snake is stressed! Your set up SUCKS!!!!!!!
    You have been told this by some of the most best on this board.

    Its not hard ya know......



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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Quote Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Your attitude pretty much turns off many people that would want to help.


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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    Quote Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    First, your using a bowed front enclosure for fish. While good for fish, isn't optimal for a ground dwelling snake. It has a lot of air space, and little floor space.
    Actually, the taller fish tanks are really designed to look pretty, not to be great for fish. Most fish prefer to swim back & forth rather than up & down. But it is even worse for the BP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Windridge Kennels View Post
    Mine do like to climb- I would provide a branch so he can climb about if he likes.
    A low branch is ok, and I'll agree that they do seem to like to climb a little bit. But BPs are heavy bodied terrestrial snakes that aren't particularly graceful. Never put anything in your BP's enclosure that is high enough they could possibly hurt themselves if they fall. Because most likely they will eventually fall.

    I thought these 2 things were worth clarifying. Pretty much everything else that has been posted in this thread (except by the OP) I agree with 100%.
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    Re: BP acting up and trying to escape ( pics )

    I was just thinking that had crispy snake all over it

    Honestly as you read through all of this just remember a few things. We all love our snakes and yours.. So we want what is best for the buggers! So as you sift through this pick out the thing we all are saying. True I dont live in a hot place so I dont understand the one heat light and it is off. But the heat lamp in the cage with your snake dude is really not cool.. Actually not to make "light" of it its to "Hot"!! Dont burn you pet by mistake.
    After ya move the lamp out and possibly get a better tem and humid guage look into some repti sticks for climbing.
    Now some will say I am crazy but mine love to climb and chill on top of stuff over looking his home. Just a thought..

    Peace

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