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View Poll Results: What time of snake breeder do you prefer?
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
Excellent post McKinsey! I'm very much in agreement with you.
While I believe and will strive as a small time breeder to give the best possible customer service, I do as a person understand the demands and craziness of a business that has grown large. Rather than dismiss a breeder due to poor communications I might let them know my concerns as the actual owner may not be the one sorting emails or responsible for answering/directing incoming phone calls. There may be an employee issue going on or a miscommunication in their business that a polite reminder could help them be more aware of.
I'm also never in much hurry when it comes to buying a snake so if I have to wait, I'll wait. I prefer fast customer service but I also know a slick fast answer isn't always the mark of a good person. Since Mike and I prefer to have long term relationships with the breeders we work with, waiting a week or so for a picture or whatever, isn't that big of a deal for us. We're not going to just quickly buy any snake from anybody anyways so for us, time isn't that much of a concern in the greater scheme of things.
As far as big breeders vs small breeders, again it makes no difference to Mike and I. Who that person is, their passion for what they do, the quality of the snakes they produce, their reputation and willingness to be there long after the sale, building a business relationship and if we're lucky, even a friendship - for our family that's what counts more than the number of snakes somebody happens to feed weekly.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I tend to take their schedules into consideration if I have a hard time contacting someone. If I call and leave a message and they are in Texas at a big show then I don't expect a call back right away. I know that the large breeder in Michigan answers his myspace immediately. I had no problems dealing with them or VPI recently and questions and pics were answered and sent to me right away. I don't think anyone would question their passion for the animals and the hobby, but sometimes they get swamped.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
 Originally Posted by frankykeno
Rather than dismiss a breeder due to poor communications I might let them know my concerns as the actual owner may not be the one sorting emails or responsible for answering/directing incoming phone calls. There may be an employee issue going on or a miscommunication in their business that a polite reminder could help them be more aware of.
Excellent points if you can get through to the owner.
 Originally Posted by frankykeno
I'm also never in much hurry when it comes to buying a snake so if I have to wait, I'll wait. I prefer fast customer service but I also know a slick fast answer isn't always the mark of a good person. Since Mike and I prefer to have long term relationships with the breeders we work with, waiting a week or so for a picture or whatever, isn't that big of a deal for us.
but when the week turns into never. That hurts business.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I voted that it doesn't matter, as I have bought from the very small, to the very large. I will say that typically the way it works for me, is to buy from a big breeder when I am at a show, since it is easy to communicate, and they tend to have a selection that allows me to pick anything that I want. However, when I am doing a sale via the phone or internet, I typically go with a smaller breeder, as they do have more time to comminucate in a quick manner (I am very impatient). That is just how we have tended to do it for the last few years.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I've never chosen to by from a 'large' breeder though I have inquired on animals at NERD a few times.
I did have an experience with a larger breeder though. I'd inquired about some animals of theirs and while they did respond and were polite over a month later I still had no information or pictures so I gave up. I've seen people successfully get photos and animals from them after this but honestly I probably won't attempt to purchase from them again.
I am not truly picky but after thinking back most of my animals have been purchased from small breeders. Adam is probably the largest I've purchased from.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I go with whoever has the best looking snake ... I dont care if its big timer or lil dude who has 2 clutches a year... Ive been jerked around and Ive had 2 email sales... Its your choice who your money goes to so give it to whomever treats you the best... With technology today it takes like 2 seconds for someone to take a picture and upload it on the computer... I understand people have lives and stuff too do but when youre selling something you should get back to people in a timely manner...
My question is if your selling a snake... people want to see pictures... why wouldnt you take like 10 pictures of the snake(s) for sale and put them on your computer?? This way when someone comes and says can you send me pics its like a 2 second process... I understand some people have like 100's of snakes for sale and thats a little much to expect/ask for but the majority of breeders arent huge. I know this is what I plan on doing when I have babies for sale.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
 Originally Posted by JoshJP7
I go with whoever has the best looking snake ... I dont care if its big timer or lil dude who has 2 clutches a year... Ive been jerked around and Ive had 2 email sales... Its your choice who your money goes to so give it to whomever treats you the best... With technology today it takes like 2 seconds for someone to take a picture and upload it on the computer... I understand people have lives and stuff too do but when youre selling something you should get back to people in a timely manner...
My question is if your selling a snake... people want to see pictures... why wouldnt you take like 10 pictures of the snake(s) for sale and put them on your computer?? This way when someone comes and says can you send me pics its like a 2 second process... I understand some people have like 100's of snakes for sale and thats a little much to expect/ask for but the majority of breeders arent huge. I know this is what I plan on doing when I have babies for sale.
That is partly why I liked my experience with the smaller breeder. She sent me 5 pictures of the snake. One of them she took within an hour of replying to my email. She also sent me a pic of her mom. (can be seen in my thread under BP pics. I think the thread title is Pastle female coming this week.)
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I shop the person and the snake not the size of the operation.
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
I have dealt with both and will likely continue to do so in the future.
You can't generalize based on a one-time experience!
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Re: Big time breeders vs. Small time Breeders
 Originally Posted by Deborah
You can't generalize based on a one-time experience!
NOTE:
When I started this thread I did not make any generalizations. I only talked about my one-time experience, but that doesn't mean I will never turn to a large breeder like NERD in the future. I have no experiences, good or bad, with him. Especially I am spending a lot of money. If the price is already over $1200 why not spend the extra $200 for something from a big name breeder.
I would like to say though that people make generalizations on one-time experiences all the time. For example, if I were to go to my local Home Depot and no one offered to help me and when I did find someone to answer my questions, they couldn't, I wouldn't go back there again. I would look for a Lowe's.
But there are generalizations that are pretty safe to make about large and small breeders.
1. Larger breeders are more likely to have a bigger stock of what you are looking for.
2. They are also more insulated from the hazards of the business, such as death on arrival.
3. Probably have enough space to hold on to snakes that don't sell as fast.
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