Thats good advice thank you I have a big branch in there and a nice rock so there is definitly a lack of open space im measuring the temperatures with a dial thermom and hygro however i have ordered an all singing all dancing digital one that should be here in a couple of days untill then im trusting mainly on the temps on the habistat thermostats.

On saturday after the failed feeding i changed over from having a incandecent light bulb to a ceramic heat lamp. Untill then i hadnt seen him com out of his hide at night once, i think because it was on all night to keep the temps up. (The guy in the shop said that snakes dont see incandecent light so not to worry?) but last night i woke up and noticed him out and about curled up on his rock so im taking that as a sign that he might be settling in.

I was also told by the guy in the shop that it was illegal in the UK to feed live and there is no need to do it because all snakes would take F/T having read up on some UK forums I think i have discovered that its not actually illegal but im not sure you can get live feeder mice readly at diferent stages of growth.

I have been trying to feed him F/T Mice just under the thickness of his widest point by precenting with a tupperware with holes in in his tank (thankyou ball-pythons.net) then doing the dead mouse zombie dance then leaving it near the entrance of his hide overnight to no avail.

Thankyou for the breadth of knowlege i have allready found on this fourm it has so far proved invaluble.

PS. i dont want this to get in to a F/T vs Live debate i can see the advantages of both types of feeding.