I need some moral support here people

[Igor]

so why do you have a snake if you think it is wrong to keep them as pets? Your hypocrisy doesnt make sense

i am not a hypocrite, i look at it as a hobby that is wrong in a way, but i still do it cause i like it...i didnt recognize it as the right thing to do on my own part...why dont u stick ur ass in a big terrium and live there for 20 years and see hwo you feel

[aaramire]

i am not a hypocrite, i look at it as a hobby that is wrong in a way, but i still do it cause i like it...i didnt recognize it as the right thing to do on my own part...why dont u stick ur ass in a big terrium and live there for 20 years and see hwo you feel

if you feel like your animal is suffering by keeping it in a cage, then dont have an animal. what you are saying makes no sense at all, and I can tell you there are plenty of people on this site who follow the bible, so I wouldnt be saying anything about that if I were you.

[Igor]

if you feel like your animal is suffering by keeping it in a cage, then dont have an animal. what you are saying makes no sense at all, and I can tell you there are plenty of people on this site who follow the bible, so I wouldnt be saying anything about that if I were you.

lets make it clear, i am not judging anyone here, and i dont care if anyone uses the bible...dont bring organized relegion into this.....as well, do not compare dogs and cats with snakes, i;ve seen it here before, it is agreed that a snake even captive bred, is still a wild animal, a dog is not...u dont keep a dog in a cage in most cases

[littleindiangirl]

So what is it Igor? What do you consider a pet? I'm anxious to know how far the hypocrisy goes.



*follow me down the rabbit hole*

[littleindiangirl]

From today 3/27

hey...now you are just assuming facts...i had my snake for 3 months now...and it didnt eat for the 4 months...and so far i have been feeding live ann all have been successful....so please dont assume....

From 3/11

thats interesting...i just got my bp a month ago and i have set up from pic 2!! and it works well, i think...

I don't think Jo was ASSuming anything considering she was only 16 days off from your second post in another thread.

I'll correct it for you, approx a month and a half you've had the BP by your dates, so why the harsh comments towards Jo???? We can only work with what you give us.

[Igor]

ok i made a mistake in my previous post...i had my snake since like jan 20...until today!! so thats about 2 months, it didnt eat for 5 weeks!!! and now its been eating 5 times consitently...so i belive my husbandry is right, as well it shed successfully...if u guys want proof i can give it to you...but WE ARE GETTING OFF TOPIC...i dont have much experince with ball pythons, but for now i am doing alright since its been eating consistently now..and its feeding response is great...

back to the topic...little indian girl..i consider a pet who has pretty much full freedom to do whatever it wants..i mean that is your american dream right...anyways, a dog has alot of freedom in most cases, a snake doesnt....so like i said domesticated pets are fine...we keep snakes for our OWN ENJOYMENT...to their SOMEWHAT expense, i am not sayin they suffer, but they dont live their life to their full potential thats my point

[littleindiangirl]

i consider a pet who has pretty much full freedom to do whatever it wants..i mean that is your american dream right...anyways, a dog has alot of freedom in most cases, a snake doesnt....

Hun, that's called a stray. Feral cats, wild dogs, feral rats, horses, birds... Those are stray animals that are self sustaining in most cases without human intervention that were at one point or another living with humans as domesticated animals. When left to their own devices they will go back to being wild animals in most cases, one generation.

so like i said domesticated pets are fine...we keep snakes for our OWN ENJOYMENT...to their SOMEWHAT expense, i am not sayin they suffer, but they dont live their life to their full potential thats my point

I can't think of any domestic pet that lives to it's "full potential" like their cousins in the wild. Name one animal besides perhaps a fish that can live to it's full potential in captivity. (no anthropomorphizing please!)

[Texas Dan]

back to the topic...little indian girl..i consider a pet who has pretty much full freedom to do whatever it wants..

That's not a pet. That's a wild animal.

[Reverend Jones]

i consider a pet who has pretty much full freedom to do whatever it wants..i mean that is your american dream right...anyways, a dog has alot of freedom in most cases, a snake doesnt....so like i said domesticated pets are fine...we keep snakes for our OWN ENJOYMENT...to their SOMEWHAT expense, i am not sayin they suffer, but they dont live their life to their full potential thats my point

Easy on the freedom rhetoric. You're assuming that animals comprehend and want something that's a human concept and value. I don't know if you can even make that assumption.

[Igor]

[QUOTE=littleindiangirl;751337]Hun, that's called a stray. Feral cats, wild dogs, feral rats, horses, birds... Those are stray animals that are self sustaining in most cases without human intervention that were at one point or another living with humans as domesticated animals. When left to their own devices they will go back to being wild animals in most cases, one generation.


well that is not the context i meant it in...i meant cats and dogs have mental capacity to recognize us as their care givers...a cat can go wonder around on the streets and come back to you..that is what i mean by freedom..its purely domesticated..a snake wont, and YES I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE MENTAL CAPACITY...so dont argue that, but i mean its still a wild animal, and keeping it in a cage...for our own purposes, is a little bit wrong...however since we enjoy the hobby we still do it...i love my snake personally!!! but i can still think its wrong, that is my opinion on it, and again we are off topic...i still feed my snake live food...and i will probably do that for a while until i am satsifed he can eat f/t...but i STILL think its wrong to contribute to someone elses death, if some of you are such avid jesus followers...isnt it wrong to contribute to someone elses death? if that is the case, than keeping a pet snake is wrong, since they would thrive in the wild and nature would take its course