treating rat bite..

[spix14]

So your snakes won't eat frozen?

[jknudson]

So your snakes won't eat frozen?

Not everyone cares to feed frozen thawed prey, its all a matter of personal choice.

I feed some of my snakes F/T to supplement the cost of live (live foods around here are much more expensive) if they will accept it, however with 20+ snakes and the time it takes to feed I would much rather find a solid source for live (which will likely end up being myself).

When I kept ASF for a short while I did notice that my colony was ultra aggressive and would rush my snakes, very nippy little buggers, and I wanted the peace of mind that my snakes wouldn't be attacked by their prey items, so I switched back to regular appropriate sized rats without issue.

And yes, neosporin without the pain meds...

[spix14]

Well, I understand that. I just thought most people chose to feed f/t to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Whatever flats your snake's boat though I guess.

[jknudson]

Well, I understand that. I just thought most people chose to feed f/t to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Whatever flats your snake's boat though I guess.

Inappropriately sized prey is generally the cause of feeding mishaps, generally because the snake cannot constrict the prey properly.

There are a lot of reasons one might choose either prey type, to each their own, and like you said whatever the snake will accept.

[ADEE]

10 mice for a 1000 gram female?

When I was exclusively a mouser (before I started breeding rats), I think the most even my largest female got was 4. Most just got 2 mice a week.

Hope your snake gets better soon!

Thats great to know.. im sure the man was over exagerating.. i wasnt there when he picked up the feeders so i can only go by what DH said. most of our snakes eat two mice weekly also

[ADEE]

Inappropriately sized prey is generally the cause of feeding mishaps, generally because the snake cannot constrict the prey properly.

There are a lot of reasons one might choose either prey type, to each their own, and like you said whatever the snake will accept.

we usually feed mice and have not had this problem before. according to my DH he said Cam got the asfr at an awkward position leaving its mouth open for attack against the snake. (near its tail instead of mid body or even behind head) it didnt leave a mark and shes fine thsi morning thankfully. we are just going to keep to mice though. we feed live because so far cameron has refused F/T although that could be in part by us doing it wrong (we havnt mastered the zombie mouse dance) thawing, warming, exc is more work than just dropping a couple mice in. when you have seven snakes and each eats at least two mice it would be terribly time consuming to feed each one f/t. if we could drop it in front of their hide and them eat that would be one thing but we have lazy eaters (cam as the exception, she has an amazing feeding response but still refuses f/t)

[Stewart_Reptiles]

on top of the guy at the shop telling him feeding our larger 1000g female 10 mice is unrealistic

You don't have to feed 10 mice, you can but you don't have to and 10 mice would be a lot of food it would be the equivalent of a 200/250 grams rat

I feed are 3 large mice (which is equal to a small rat)

My snakes grow just fine even on smaller prey items, I have my Spider who is 1700+ grams at a year and a half.

Only prior to breeding season would I consider feeding my females more, and in that case it would only be 5/6 mice.

[ADEE]

My snakes grow just fine even on smaller prey items, I have my Spider who is 1700+ grams at a year and a half.

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wow, thats amazing!! good to know

[Stewart_Reptiles]

wow, thats amazing!! good to know

It depends on the snake of course, but because you feed smaller preys does not mean your snake will grow slowly, or only survive.

Mine are thriving on smaller preys.

[ADEE]

cameron and hazard (a normal and a pastel who weve had the longest) are both thriving on eating two mice a week, my late 07 normal weighs 425g already... the only reason my dh even picked up the other food item (Turns out to be a ASF) was because they ran out of regular mice. we feed them adult sized mice weekly and they have done great so far... our new spider and mojave have also eaten a mouse each. the only animals to not eat as of yet are our two larger (cbb) girls who are 880g and 1100g and im sure thats in part due to the fact they were being "cooled" for breeding before i got them and the lighter female is in shed also.