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View Poll Results: Are males or females more aggressive?

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  • Females

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  • Males

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  • neither really...depends on the individual

    31 56.36%
  • possibly...depends on the species

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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    Interesting question. I would say females based on my experience, but I don't know if that's because I have so many more females . . . .
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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice View Post
    Interesting question. I would say females based on my experience, but I don't know if that's because I have so many more females . . . .
    Hey, What are you doing posting this late? LOL!

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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    Quote Originally Posted by cassandra View Post
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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    As a whole, I have observed the female half of most species are more aggressive, maybe maternal instinct or something? In 30+ years raising birds you can tell in some species by 6-8 weeks the males and females by the hissing and aggression and usually right 90% of the time. Female dogs are more protective at an earlier age than males even neutered ones. These are strictly my own observations. I do not have enough experience with snakes to form an opinion at this time.
    Last edited by Debbienflorida; 02-01-2008 at 11:10 PM.

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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    I also don't have enough experience with reptiles to say as the only reptiles I've had, aside from bluebellies, the sex was unkown.

    In regards to dogs, however, I would just like to add that what people interpret as "protective" behavior is often territorial, dominance, resource guarding, food aggression, etc. A vast majority ( I'm talking like 99% ) of dogs will not "protect" their owner in the face of a true adversary, with real pain and a real confrontation. Very specific genes and training/conditioning go into the training of a dog that can handle the mental and physical stress of combat with a human.

    Females are often noted to be more aggressive as females fight amongst themselves more and spaying a female dog increases aggression among many other health risks and that neutering a male dog unless done very young *which is TOO young* does not affect aggressive tendencies and even when neutered young males are capable of being aggressive, to people, to dogs, to other animals.

    In mammals and most other species that live with humans, it is not the sex that determines aggression levels it is the handling and training of those animals that determines outward aggression. Yes animals are born with certain traits that make them more or less inclined towards aggression - namely dominance - but these inclinations can be suppressed, redirected, and prevented even in animals that are already showing strong, dangerous, aggressive tendencies.

    I've worked with dangerous animals most of my life. Aggressive dogs, horses, cats, birds, ferrets etc and while not easy aggressive tendencies can be worked through. That said I do believe this poll is directed towards reptiles, which I don't have enough experience with to vote. I will say that I think it would be more of an individual thing, not directly linked to sex.

    Just my 27 cents lol

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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    I dislike anytime people use the term "always". Things are rarely "always" anything and those broad stroke type mentalities drive me nuts.

    For me aggression doesn't cover things like maternal protective instincts, defensive behaviours, instincts of self-preservation, etc. Those are things I expect to see in any animal and expect to deal with as is appropriate for that species and their interactions with my family.

    I haven't had to take a big female snake off her eggs yet but should one of our females take a jab at me, so what. I should be shocked she's being "aggressive"? Those are her eggs, her instinct is to stay on her eggs, she's doing whatever it takes to fulfill her natural role and I'm the one sticking my nose (and hands) into the process. There's nothing "aggressive" about that, it's something I should expect, plan for and just deal with in a common sense manner. Sure she's a female snake or she wouldn't be on a clutch but I don't think that means all females are naturally more difficult to deal with than all males.
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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    Yes, I do think that people interpret defensiveness, as aggression. Most times that people get bitten by their BPs, the BP is either being defensive, or hungry and mistaking the handler for prey. I can't say that I've ever heard of, or read about, an offensive BP that would choose to go after a person rather than curl up, quickly strike defensively "bluffing." Unless it is mistaking the person's heat and motion for a prey item.
    I have gotten my hand constricted before. My big female thought that I was a prey item. This is not aggression in my book; it is hunger-striking.
    I have also gotten snapped-at by off-guard snakes whose tubs I had opened without really thinking to warn them much. If I had been relaxing/sitting in a nice warm hide for 10 hours and was maybe asleep, and some large living being put its hand into my space suddenly, I would swat out at it too! (do it to my husband all of the time!)
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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    Well even with our Brannagh, who when we got her at just under 2,000 grams, would go out of her way to strike - I never really took that as aggressiveness. Brannagh was just in her own way trying to live life. I've no idea what her story was before we found her in that pet store but she was so tense the employees were afraid of her. She'd slam into the side of her enclosure if anyone approached, let alone dared to try and open the lid. Brannagh was definitely a handful back then.

    We just stayed calm, didn't react to her antics, took precautions to avoid her bites and just fed and housed her like any other snake. Eventually with repetitive, calm yet firm handling Brannagh got the message that trying to bite us didn't get her whatever it was she wanted so she stopped. We've never seen a moment of this behaviour again. She's a big BP now, almost 5 feet and over 3,200 grams and a just lovely, calm and very regal adult.

    I don't think her gender had anything to do with her behaviour back then. Something in her life triggered this behaviour and the humans that had her obviously reacted to it so she kept up with what worked for her. When she was faced with humans that didn't react with fear or let the behaviour control them or what needed to be done, she adjusted herself to the new situation quite nicely.
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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    I will comment on African Rocks. Python sebae do have aggressive tendencies sometimes, although you cannot flat out call them aggressive. During breeding season males are very hyper, and very prone to sizing something up, or biting, musking, etc. I've had males try and size me up during the breeding season. Males will even kill each other during breeding season. Where as most male Boids will wrestle each other to the ground with out any aggressive moves towards each other such as biting and what have you; male Python sebae will rip each other apart, cause deep lacertions in each other, and very well kill each other. After the seasons over, for an odd reason they mellow out (Though they still cannot come into contact with other males), and females start to kick into an aggressive mode. During their gravid period, as well as after the lay and during incubation, females will lash out, strike, side swipe, use the bulk of their body to throw around, and size you up. Its quite scary to have a large 16'+ female size you up when you open her cage. It really makes you think...

    Other than that, I really couldn't comment on which gender is more aggressive. They both have their moments IMO

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    Re: Dispel Myth: Is one gender more aggressive than the other?

    I agree with Franky in that there is no definitive answer here. Some females are sweethearts, some are not. Same thing with males, I think an aggressive 3000 gram female will sure seem worse than an aggressive 1000 gram male. I think size has something to do with it, and with balls I think that people looking for a pet are better off with males bc theyre snake will still go through a cycle if the ambient temp in their house changes with the seasons, and with that will come all the attitude of a breeding female. During the summer I see little difference but from late Sept-Feb, I watch my fingers when I open female tubs, but theyre hungry, theyre making eggs(hopefully )...I dont think with balls there is a diff in the summer, but in the winter, I wouldn't let my child play with any of my adult female, but I'd let that child play with most if not all of my males, all year long. That said I too have only been bitten by my female snakes, never once bitten by a male (bad karma is coming I now)....That said as well there is nothing cooler than a 3000 gram albino female ball python, absolutely gorgeous.

    I know this is about snakes but everyone else threw in some other animals so for the record, male bearded dragons are definitely generally more aggressive, but like I said before theyre are aggressive animals of both sex. I've produced thousands of beardies and it seems like most of the time the aggressive ones turn out to be female, which is ok because they end up with experienced breeders anyway. In my experience, aggressive beardies breed more consistantly as well.
    Last edited by Pythonman; 02-03-2008 at 10:35 AM. Reason: spelling

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