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View Poll Results: During the struggle of your snake constricing a rodent has it been hurt?

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  • No my snake has never been hurt while killing a rodent.

    92 56.44%
  • Yes my snake was bitten while killing a rodent but it didn't break skin

    31 19.02%
  • Yes my snake was bitten, and it did puncture the skin, but it did not scar

    21 12.88%
  • Yes, my snake was bitten, and the bite left a permanent scar.

    19 11.66%
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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Hey all,

    Without this thred getting way outta hand.......lets simmer down, now.

    I feed live. I have 65 balls and have had a very successful feeding history, less one.

    When I fed one day to my group I have a regularly timid 100% het for pied. Its because of this I choose a smaller rat for her. Well I picked the smaller rat that I had in a tank for a week. They are fed and watered but I suspect that this one being the runt, got beat up on and was either looking for some pay back or was on the bottom end of the food chain (I suspect the latter). It took the rat 30 seconds , literally, to put a hole in the body of my ball. I was upset to say the least and the rats life was terminated shortly thereafter. I just want to be sure say here that I still feed live. as my collection grows I do not see that changing.

    It is very important though, that we watch our pets and insure that they eat quicky and without problem. I hope I never have a problem again and I am very happy to see Adam's impressive stat's but, I am afraid to say I believe it is luck, not skill that dictates whether we have one of these unfortunate accidents.

    This is a first hand experiance and I did not get this from my second cousins sister's, Mom brother on her maiden side.

    Disclaimer: These are my opinion, at no time should you take these for gospel. That is all.
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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki View Post
    I've already posted a thread somewhere around here that describes my methods for feeding live. I'm sure that if you're unable to find it yourself, someone can give you a hand.

    Feeding live is not for everyone ... I would encourage you to choose a feeding method that works best for you and your snakes.

    I apologize if my post offended you in any way.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Quote Originally Posted by bearhart View Post
    So, I'd love to hear about your methods and benefit from your experience. But, with all due respect, the "impressive stats" posts are of dubious, and perhaps negative, value.
    I also follow Adam's methods, and with over 3000 live feedings, not one bite, not one scratch, not one mauling.

    You think Adam's claims are dubious - do you really believe he'd risk his collection to live feeders if he really had problems?

    I believe the OP asked for pictures of permanent scars left by injuries. You said you've had two, can you post those pictures of the permanent scarring from your animals being injured?

    Four people voted that feeding left permanent scarring in their animals, but no one has posted a picture?

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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcavana View Post
    Priceless.

    Tosha, you are breaking the rules. you are not talking about first hand experiences... you are talking about rescue turn ins. There is no telling what really happened there... The person may have said "I was feeding my snake, and the rat attacked!" what they didn't tell you was that the rat was probably in the tank for 2 days... or that it was a large rat with 100g snake. Please, first hand experiences only.
    Actually I did say I have had snakes bitten and scratched by rodents - myself first hand experience - yes I absolutely know how to properly feed my snakes - these things don't happen over night or by feeding too big or the wrong food item or from a hungry mouse - it takes but a split second for a panicked rat or mouse to grab onto your snake and do some damage.

    Anyway - here is a mouser girl that I had get bitten - yes I was watching diligently when it happened - she grabbed the mouse - wrapped it and everything seemed to be fine - until she unwrapped to start eating and I noticed her bleeding - that was two years ago - you can still see the scar on her face - a little more to the left and she could well have lost an eye as it is she has a hard time shedding her head and whistles when she breaths.

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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    my snake at home has been bitten once but it didnt break the scales. but at work i was feeding a month old hatchling and mouse took a dime size chunk out of his neck. I was watching but the way he coiled I couldn't see him being bit. This is no wives tale....

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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Quote Originally Posted by moespeaking View Post
    but at work i was feeding a month old hatchling and mouse took a dime size chunk out of his neck.
    I'm just wondering...how big was the mouse you gave to this month old hatchling, that it was able to take a "dime" size chunk out of his neck.


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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    I feed live. I have one snake get bitten over 3 years of live feeding. I am lucky my snake didn't get hurt yes. But that does not change my mind on my feeding methods. All my snakes are fed now with rats I have bred and raised they are all well fed and watered and taken care of. I also use a 10 minute rule, if the snake hasnt hit within that 10 minutes the rat comes out.

    No one is right or wrong in their choice. This live - f/t debate will never be settled. Do what works best for you and your snake and don't judge others for their choices.
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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    First off let me state....I have nothing but respect for Adam and his snakes as I am fighting with myself over whether I should drop some of my tax refund on a pin from him. That bieng said here is a picture of my het pied as I dont really like bieng called a liar because I didnt post a pic!







    Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    I also follow Adam's methods, and with over 3000 live feedings, not one bite, not one scratch, not one mauling.

    You think Adam's claims are dubious - do you really believe he'd risk his collection to live feeders if he really had problems?

    I believe the OP asked for pictures of permanent scars left by injuries. You said you've had two, can you post those pictures of the permanent scarring from your animals being injured?

    Four people voted that feeding left permanent scarring in their animals, but no one has posted a picture?
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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    Quote Originally Posted by firehop View Post
    First off let me state....I have nothing but respect for Adam
    i appreciate it, but it's really not necessary ... i've never said that live feeding accidents don't happen or accused anyone that has claimed to have a live feeding accident of lying or being a bad keeper. Accidents happen to EVERYONE ... whether it's a live feeding accident, a thermal burn, an RI, etc ... i don't know ANYONE that is PERFECT ... and if I did, I'd probably be afraid of them ... lol.

    I only post my stats to offer my experience with live feeding. There are a lot of people that say that live feeding CAN'T be done safely and I really have to disagree with them based on my experience.

    I only hope that my posts offer some sort of comfort to people that would love to feed F/T or P/K but can't because their snake won't take it and are afraid of offering their animals live ... they shouldn't be afraid, because in my experience it can be done safely ... and they shouldn't feel bad about feeding live because someone on the internet says that it's wrong, because it's not.

    I encourage each keeper to feed in a way that works for them and their animals ... LIVE, F/T, P/K, whatever ... there are people all over that wouldn't hesitate to take away our rights to keep reptiles as pets ... those are the people that we should be arguing with ... not each other.

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    Re: Feeding live mice and rats is dangerous... Wives tale?

    The first time I fed my girl a live mouse, she struck the mouse and hit it low and the mouse bit her neck enough to break skin. I didn't vote however because it still hasn't healed completely. She's had one shed so far and the wound is healing up pretty nicely, but I think there is going to be a scar when it's all said and done. Here is a pic (sorry, it's blurry, but look at the open wound three spots back from her head) from about a few days after it happened. It's looking MUCH better now though...


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