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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    I disagree..Our focus should be to educate the law makers and the general public. The only reason law makers think reptiles and snakes in particular are in such great need of legislation is because that is what they are being told by the people that want such laws passed. If we as a learned herpetoculturist remove the ignorance,by way of education, surrounding the general public about reptiles then we remove the animal rights groups teeth in this area. When Our law makers can look at some of these groups and make an educated and informed decision based on facts and not what they are told we will be better off on the whole.

    thats what i mean...........you just broke it down better!
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    Quote Originally Posted by reediculous View Post
    thats what i mean...........you just broke it down better!
    Sweet!
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    It takes money more then education to fight a proposed ban that becomes a bill in any house....
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    what's this law thing you guys are talking about, in what state? Is it a similar thing ti giant python law in Florida?
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    Quote Originally Posted by hgrub View Post
    what's this law thing you guys are talking about, in what state? Is it a similar thing ti giant python law in Florida?
    Here is a statement by Andrew or NCARK
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    Our #1 enemy, without a doubt, is the Animal Protection Institute (API) and a woman by the name of Nicole Paquette. If you haven't heard of them you need to start paying attention. Nicole is a world class AR attorney employed by API. She has gotten her exotic animal ban passed in IL, NY, KS, KY, WA. She has bills pending in IA, NE, IN, OH, OR and NC. They are currently targeting PA, SC, WV and others. If they haven't gotten to your state you better get off your butt and get involved and organized or you will get mowed down. They are well funded and organized at the national level. They are supported by the most powerful AR group in the world... the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). HSUS is not the animal shelter down the street. They have nothing to do with your local Humane Society. They are strictly animal rights! They want to end all animal ownership and use.

    These two groups have been having their way with state legislatures around the country since 2000. Without organized opposition with the ability to activate a grass roots movement and fund a serious lobbying effort, it is only a matter of time. That hasn't been happening... untill now! For more than 2 years NCARK has recruited members, raised funds, made political alliances with other animal interests and pertinent state agencies, sustained a significant grass roots effort, and hired the attorneys and lobbyists we have needed to fight fire with fire. And we have been very successful in thwarting the advances of API. They have spent big money and lots of time in NC... and they are losing. We have created a successful model for other states to attain similar results. We have spun off a sister organization... SC Association of Reptile Keepers (SCARK). We think this is a model we can use at the national level.

    We propose creating a non-profit tax exempt organization called the American Association of Reptile Keepers (ARK). The ARK would be an umbrella organization to organize and advise state chapters addressing issues specific to the individual state. We could raise funds at the national level and direct them to where they are needed most... just like the AR activists. We are reaching out to everyone in the herp community, big and small, to get involved.
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    This isn't recent, but you get the drift?
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    erm...no not really. But I'm thick so it's not surprising lol

    What exactly kind of law are they trying to pass in term of ball python related? Are they going to prohibit keeping of ball python or just making law that you all have to register or something?

    This is interesting.
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    They want everything banned
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    That's huge man.
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    Re: Where will morphs be in a few years

    This kind of thing enrages me. They'll take my snakes from my cold, dead hands (same with my guns.) I read a little bit about the proposed ARK foundation; if anyone has more info on that, please post or PM me. This is completely an outrage. That's "freedom" for ya.. one more thing that is harmless to the community that these idiots want to ban. I go to work everyday, earn an honest living, come home and enjoy my snakes, and now there are "people" out there that want to take that away..
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