Misting with chlorhexadine solution

[slartibartfast]

Given that he asked in public chat if it was safe to use for misting, I hardly consider it unsolicited advice.

Here are a few quotes from the MSDS for chlorhexidine gluconate:

Section 3: Hazards Identification
Potential Acute Health Effects:
Very hazardous in case of ingestion.
Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of inhalation.
Non-corrosive for skin.
Non-sensitizer for skin.
Non-permeator by skin.

Potential Chronic Health Effects:
Very hazardous in case of ingestion.
Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of inhalation.
Non-corrosive for skin.
Non-sensitizer for skin.
Non-permeator by skin.
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.
DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available.
The substance is toxic to lungs, mucous membranes. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.

Section 7:
Handling and Storage
Precautions:Keep away from heat. Keep away from sources of ignition. Empty containers pose a fire risk, evaporate the residue under a fume hood. Ground all equipment containing material. Do not ingest. Do not breathe gas/fumes/vapour/spray. Wear suitable protective clothing In case of insufficient ventilation, wear suitable respiratory equipment. If ingested, seek medical advice immediately and show the container or the label. Avoid contact with skin and eyes
Storage:Keep container dry. Keep in a cool place. Ground all equipment containing material. Keep container tightlyclosed. Keep in a cool, well-ventilated place. Combustible materials should be stored away from extreme heat and away from strong oxidizing agents.

Section 8:
Exposure Controls/Personal Protection
Engineering Controls:
Provide exhaust ventilation or other engineering controls to keep the airborne concentrations of vapors below their respective threshold limit value. Ensure that eyewash stations and safety showers are proximal to the work-station location.
Personal Protection:
Splash goggles. Lab coat. Vapor respirator. Be sure to use an approved/certified respirator or equivalent. Gloves.
Personal Protection in Case of a Large Spill:Splash goggles. Full suit. Vapor respirator. Boots. Gloves. A self contained breathing apparatus should be used to avoid inhalation of the product. Suggested protective clothing might not be sufficient; consult a specialist BEFORE handling this product.
Exposure Limits: Not available.

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[dsirkle]

Given that he asked in public chat if it was safe to use for misting, I hardly consider it unsolicited advice.






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I'm just sayin' and junk.

[Mindibun]

Personally, I think that with the amount of people suggesting not to use the disinfectant, that he would have just said "ok" by now. The fact that he's still arguing with everyone, even when valid points are made is just proof that he doesn't really care one way or the other about the snake.

If there was any question whatsoever about the safety of a product or a procedure, I wouldn't even risk the health of my snake. The fact that he's willing to put his animal at risk only to prove that a cleaner can be used as a misting element is just ridiculous. It speaks volumes in my book. I wouldn't even bother arguing any further.

I just don't understand why he's so dead-set on this. Why is it so important? And what gave him the idea to even start the whole misting with disinfectant procedure anyway? What did he think was to be gained from it? I mean, why bother? It's just costing more money to purchase the cleaner to mix with the water, and creating a problem in the forums. I don't see what good could come of it in any direction...

[nixer]

thats still the wrong msds!
and for all of your information i never did it in the first place! i just wanted to know what would happen.

and i care for my animals much more than most ppl here and i sure spend more time with them as well considering workload.

continue to flame me i got a real fact answer from a real herp vet and thats that.

[Mindibun]

out of curiosity, what was the answer? If you don't mind sharing.

[Karma]

Are you sure you were born in 77? Not 97?

[ladywhipple02]

and i care for my animals much more than most ppl here and i sure spend more time with them as well considering workload.

Don't make judgements against people you don't even know. You have no idea how much time Jess spends with her animals, you have no idea how much I work, and you have no idea how much any of us care for our animals---apparently, you don't know any of us AT ALL if you think we care less for our animals that you.

What was the answer, anyway... did the "knowledgable" vet tell you the exact same thing Jess did?

[bcampos]

Wow Nixer, you seem to have some serious issues. You have a bunch of name calling in this thread like you are a 14 year old at recess. Just calm down or go somewhere else.

As far as misting with a disinfectant, would you put disinfectant in your kid's humidifier, just because it might be ok. Why would you want anyone or anything to inhale more chemicals than there already are in the air.

Wow......

[bcampos]

thats still the wrong msds!
and for all of your information i never did it in the first place! i just wanted to know what would happen.

I see so it's a hypothetical "just want to know what would happen"

On that note, can anyone tell me what would happen if I filled my office with gasoline and played with matches. NOT THAT I'M GOING TO DO IT, but hey, I just wanted to know what would happen.

I'd hope you could figure out on your own that it's not a good idea; and your wondering what could happen might as well be kept to yourself if you are going to insult everyone like an angry 14 year old.

[frankykeno]

Nixer, since you choose not to listen when a member advises you that you are asking an obvious husbandry question in chat when it's in bold green and simple words at the top of chat to NOT have husbandry discussions there...how about you listen to me.

Do NOT ask husbandry questions in chat. They are to be addressed in the appropriate forum. This is covered, as I mentioned, in the large, green words you can't miss at the top of the chat box, this is also covered in a sticky on chat. Continued misuse of the chat system can and will get you blocked from access to it.

Next, you may disagree with anything you like. You may not disagree by calling any member disrespectful names, either in threads or in chat. This it not a rule for you, it's a rule for all of us and all of us are expected to follow it or lose certain privileges of this site. That's simple, that's clear and that's not negotiable.

If you prefer to receive all your husbandry advice from your vet, feel free to pick up the phone and place that call Nixer but don't complain and attack people when they give you an answer you don't care for. It's an open forum, you're going to get answers you don't like or don't wish to follow the advice given, that's your choice but that choice does not include this sort of rude response.

As for the other members posting here, Nixer is being cautioned to not become rude and abrasive in his responses. I'd ask you each to read what you wrote and make sure you are not stirring this pot further and in need of your own caution. Age is NOT a issue and to insult someone by inferring they are younger, insults every teenage member here that is doing a great job with their snakes. You may disagree with Nixer but keep it respectful.