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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    I would hope you are not SERIOUSLY suggesting to feed a rabbit to a BP

    I don’t have any issue with feeder rabbits (for large snake) however for a BP this is way over-killed.

    Because a BP can eat a large prey does not mean he needs to. Adults BP don’t require a large prey to thrive.

    The largest I feed are small rats 65 grams once a week and it is enough food even for an adult, more than they would ever get in the wild.
    I take it you spend alot of time in the Bush researching BP food intake??
    You do realize that 600-1000 gram yearlings are common in the bush in africa dont you??/
    And as for assuming I was...And i still stand behind my assuptions...I honestly dont think for a second you have ANY idea what your talking about other than just puking up stuff youve read from somewhere else...adn not from any practical experience in any shape form or fashion...if im wrong Ill be hte first person to admit it...

    and as for your question
    do they need Large prey to Thrive...Not at all..but they need to be adequately Fed to thrive...and maintenance feeding is not thriving...thats just surviving...i can live on 4 cups of water and a peanut butter sandwich everyday....but thats not what i would call thriving...

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    You do realize that 600-1000 gram yearlings are common in the bush in africa dont you??/
    So are they in captivity even with small rats but hey I wouldn't know right
    I honestly dont think for a second you have ANY idea what your talking about other than just puking up stuff youve read from somewhere else
    And no I don't regurgitate what I read or what I heard, I always been doing my own thing whether everyone else does it or not.
    but they need to be adequately Fed to thrive...and maintenance feeding is not thriving...thats just surviving
    Well I am heart broken to find out that any animal that has been in my care (past or present) has just been surviving
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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    I don't know if it helps at all, but from 1995-2001 I was routinely feeding my adult ball pythons large and jumbo F/T rats ... based on the advice of several friends that were maintaining large collections of ball pythons, for the last 6 years I've fed live and nothing larger than a small rat ... I personally feel that my collection is doing much better now than before. I have a little over 10 years worth of data to base my opinions on (as well as practical experience of getting to see 700+ ball pythons day in and day out) and I'm quite happy with the switch. And with the success that I've been having the last several years raising and breeding my animals I'm quite sure that they are thriving.

    I'm not telling anyone how to feed their own snakes, nor am I suggesting that anyone doing things differently is wrong ... I'm only sharing the way I do things and what works for me ... take it for what it's worth.

    The good news is that there is no ONE WAY to care for these animals ... some people use paper, some use mulch ... some feed at night, some feed during the day ... some feed large, and some feed small ... the important thing is that the animals are being cared for and that we all share this common bond ... we love these magnificent creatures!

    However you choose to care for your snakes ... good for you … enjoy them … there are people out there that would love to see you not own a single one!!!

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

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    You do realize that 600-1000 gram yearlings are common in the bush in africa dont you??/
    So are they in captivity even with small rats but hey I wouldn't know right
    So your saying its Ok to feed Small rats to baby bps???

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    So your saying its Ok to feed Small rats to baby bps???
    I said yearling in captivity can be in that weight range even if fed nothing larger than a small rat.

    I will say it again, since you have issue understanding me (got to be a language barrier here ), no one told you what to feed YOUR BP, all that was said was An adult BP can thrive on small rats (and I don't mean survive I mean thrive) But again what do I know .
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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    Adam seems the wisest here...calm, cool, knowledgeable andvery respectful.

    But..I'm glad we don't haveto feed rabbits!!!

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheryls View Post
    Adam seems the wisest here
    Thank you, but I wouldn't go that far ... lol ... I'm just a big dummy that has been blessed to be able to work with a large number of my favorite animal on the planet for a long time now ... I can see the validity in the points made by everyone that has posted in this discussion and even if I don't agree with them, I have the utmost respect for anyone that is passionate about giving their animals the best care as they see it.

    And I'm glad that I don't have to feed rabbits too.

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    So this random guy pops out of no where... starts saying hes got all this experience but has shown no proof of this other than his word... ever think about the snakes health? You are aware that these snakes are opportunists in the wild and don't eat every week? Millions of years of evolution has made it possible for them to survive on very little food. With that said im not saying its good to starve your snake or anything. All I'm saying is if they were made to eat everyweek and big meals such as 2 large rats dont you think theyd be a little bit bigger than 5ft and 3-5lbs? Im curious if you have children... Do you let them eat whatever whenever?
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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    Guys and Gals - Adam said it quite well
    The good news is that there is no ONE WAY to care for these animals
    Let's all just take a step back and try to figure out why we're getting so worked up over this? Do what works for you. Share what's worked for you, and be respectful of our differences.


    So this random guy pops out of no where... starts saying hes got all this experience but has shown no proof of this other than his word...
    He may have popped up out of nowhere to you, but he's been on Reptile Radio as a caller, he's metioned by Jason of Jason's Jungle as his biggest customer, he's also a regular and respected contributor on Fauna. Just because he's new here, doesn't mean he's some random guy with no experience. I knew who he was immediately.

    I do think that his original post with the picture of the rabbit was meant to be in jest to the OP. Would I ever choose to feed a rabbit to any of my collection? No. But do I take issue with Chris doing it with his? No. I'm sure he knows his collection as well as Adam knows his, as well as I know my modest collection, as well as Tim knows his, etc.

    There's no one right way to do this guys - as Larry and BT say every week - do what works for you.

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    Re: How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

    for him coming outta no where... Anyone could make up a name, come on here say they have all this experience. Does that mean I believe them? Def. not. If hes got a website or something proving that he actually owns what he says he does then I'll listen to him. Its nice that you know him but theres many other posters like myself who have no idea who this guy is. Hes been a memeber for a yr and only made 18 posts what else are we supposed to think?
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