Which is the most interesting Super Secret Project?

[MarkS]

Let's just say there's more than one "incorrect recipe" in the German edition.

So the German book is wrong then.... I'm glad to hear that because I had my own theory on what was in it but it didn't match up with the book...

Mark

[max123]

If you look at the woma yellow belly and the yellow belly granite and add fire. That's what I think the Inferno is but I'm prob way off.

[littleindiangirl]

If you look at the woma yellow belly and the yellow belly granite and add fire. That's what I think the Inferno is but I'm prob way off.

There is also an inferno granite.

[max123]

Oh, didn't know that.

[bait4snake]

I think you're wrong about that due to the fact that a lesser platinum crystal has been produced already and it looks nothing like a platinum

That's why I said "another version of" the hidden gene, much like how Lesser and Mojave are different versions of Het BEL. Time will tell though.

[MarkS]

That's why I said "another version of" the hidden gene, much like how Lesser and Mojave are different versions of Het BEL. Time will tell though.

Oh, now I understand what you were saying. You think that the gene that makes the crystal is another allele of the platinum complex like the hidden gene in platty daddy? It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it is, because Toms secret gene also makes different looking pastels not just different looking mojaves and lessers. So I think it's a separate gene all on it's own that will modify the looks of anything it is crossed with not just genes at a specific loci.

Whether or not the hidden gene in the womas is the same thing as either of those two I don't know. I Haven't really seen enough of the effect of that gene to even speculate. Though I suspect that it plays a major roll in a lot of NERDS secret projects.

[Kara]

I'm glad to hear that because I had my own theory on what was in it but it didn't match up with the book...

Mark

Care to share your theory? Always interested to hear another perspective...

[MarkS]

Care to share your theory? Always interested to hear another perspective...

Sorry, it's a secret

[Kara]

Sorry, it's a secret

LOL!!! I can certainly appreciate that!

[RandyRemington]

Since Tom Baker refers to his female as "Special" I'm assuming that she isn't as normal looking as the dilute gene carriers that make platy appear to be. Maybe she is on the subtle side compared to mojave or lesser or maybe even phantom but still I'm thinking a visible morph. As a visible morph, I would not be surprised if it makes a different looking pastel. I don't think that necessarily means the special gene isn't another allele in this group. Of course it could go either way but I'm also expecting it to be another allele and the crystal to be one of the more colorful supers in this group. I'm not sure "leucistic" is really the best name but I think everything from the homozygous lesser to the platy to the crystal to the super phantom are all alike in that they all have two mutant copies of this gene and the differences are which mutant versions are present. I think the ingredients lesser, butter, mojave, phantom, Vin Russo, mocha, dilute/hidden, special and probably a few more (Marshall VT near me proved another this year) are all the same gene, just distinctly different mutations of that gene. So I would consider the platy and the crystal to also be supers of sorts with no room for a normal version of the gene just like the super phantom or the super lesser.

Now the relationship to piebald was unexpected but different in that it appears that an animal can be both homozygous piebald and lesser so not alleles. Maybe lesser just lets the piebald white spread further. Sort of an interaction like pastel and cinnamon to produce an unexpected combo but still separate genes.